Sorry that was so long.

P.S. Hey Kenny!! Long time no See.

Best post of the night!

Well, keep in mind that this article was on 12/26. And the extra.com thing is from 12/21.

Don't know WHAT that means, if anything.

Yeah I have no idea what that means either.

With Days being so good, I thought we were in the clear for awhile but I am not worried about all soaps with this news. The domino effect will start with Passions and who knows what everything will look like when the dust clears.

This thread certainly has been a laugh and a half to read. Very entertaining folks! Especially for such a dire and not so nice topic.

I am hoping PASSIONS is not cancelled for the SOLE reason of the cancellations effect on DAYS and the soap genre on a whole. If it were simply about the merits of PASSIONS alone my response would be entirely different.

I completely agree with whoever said, Steve Frame I think, that a cancellations of PASSIONS would not be the fault of NBC but JER. HE has known for YEARS the dire straights that BOTH PASSIONS and DAYS were in in regards to renewals. He was writing for both shows so he knew very well how dicy the situations were. Clearly from what the Passions fans on her have said JER hasn't shown any inclination to save his show. He also didn't show any regard for saving DAYS. I saw how he let that show fester into a giant mess, if he did anything even close to PASSIONS it must be just horrid now.

NBC is in deep doo doo because there programming across the board just sucks. The only thing they have to brag about is Deal or No Deal. A game show that they are over exposing, making it wear out it's welcome.

After that they have The TODAY show as their only other brag peice. That's pretty sad. In Primetime they STILL have to rely on ER and Law and Order, two shows well over 10 years old, to bring in ratings, and most of their new shows fail and fail miserably.

I'm sure NBC would LOVE to have a show like Regis and Kelly that it could tout but they haven't been able to mustard up anything. NBC has to hate how The View is getting all this attention now because of Rosie. She argues with everyone and anyone and it's news fodder for days. Even on MSNBC, they can't stop promoting Rosie and The View. All they do is talk about what Rosie has said or done now. ABC must love them at MSNBC. They just make more and more people want to tune in for themselves to see who Rosie will get in a fight with next.

TODAY is ahead of the pack in ratings in early morning but isn't ABC's GMA right on their heals?

The Third hour of TODAY is nothing but fluff. I don't see how they can stretch it another hour. But I know they will. Maybe CBS will dump Katie soon and she can come back and host the 3rd and 4th hours of TODAY. LOL

I have heard that DAYS did not get a 2 year renewal or I guess, it would be called a continuation of their old contract picked up all the way through to 2009, but that they too are now on a YEAR to YEAR basis for their renewal. So if NBC were to drop DAYS when their next renewal comes up they would be off the air in March of 2008.

Because of my fondness for DAYS, out of personal greed I would wish DAYS picked up by another network. Even if it meant another soap having to leave. I know that would be bad bad bad for soaps and cause a lot of backlash for DAYS with the public and fans of another soap but selfish me would want my soap still on anyway possible.

I also with I think it was Kenny who said that DAYS is much more of a name brand that could sell than something like OLTL. In pop culture, you hear people say "Like Sands through the hourgalss..." or you just have to say Luke and Laura, or Erica Kane, but what phrase or name could be said of OLTL to make anyone, anyplace know what you are talking about? I think DAYS is a lot more marketable than alot of soaps. DAYS also has a history of fans who are very loyal and though they get mad and leave when not happy, they have shown that they are willing to come back if given a pay off. I know ABC and Corday were close to an agreement in the past when negotiations were tight so one never knows.

The only thing I can sort of see in NBC sticking with DAYS right now is that they have NOTHING else to put on daytime or primetime. Sure they could give back another hour of syndication to the affiliates, but they would be losing any chance of gaining in daytime. They are seeing shows like Regis and Kelly, and The View getting increased viewership and that is what NBC wants. That is why they are trying this insane experiment with TODAY. They are trying to compete with ABC for morning programming. If they gave up DAYS as well, they would have nothing from 11am - 8pm aside from 30 minutes of news with Brian Williams. I don't know if NBC especially in their predictiment of lousy primetime, would be able to risk losing all their daytime lineup. DAYS is doing better in the ratings, they have been keeping with 2.5-2.7 range, they haven't been dipping to the 2.3's and 2.2's in a while. Passions on the other hand keeps drownign in 1.5's! So that might let NBC say ok we'll let you show us if you can keep it up for another year, because right now they can't afford to lose everything. Isn't the whole network drowning as a whole? They haven't had a hit show since FRIENDS. They don't really have strenght to say we don't need you, we can get along fine without you and we don't need your viewers. Right now they need any loyalty they can get from fans adn cancelling both PASSIONS and DAYS together, especially DAYS would cause a backlash on their primetime programming which is in a precarious situation of it's own. So could they gamble on that and risk a few million fans from DAYS to boycott NBC

Sorry that was so long.

P.S. Hey Kenny!! Long time no See.

Brilliant post! I love an informed, knowledgable poster. Everyone should read your post closely.

And hello to you too, HJJJJJ! LoL How have you been?

I feel sorry for anyone who's missed the last few days here. Trying to catch up on this thread? Pop a bag of popcorn, grab a cold drink and settle in! It's a novel, damn it!

I feel sorry for anyone who's missed the last few days here. Trying to catch up on this thread? Pop a bag of popcorn, grab a cold drink and settle in! It's a novel, damn it!

Like Hidden Passions!! :D

(I call dibs on being Theresa)

Like Hidden Passions!!

(I call dibs on being Theresa)

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that fabulous book NOT written by JER? LoL

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that fabulous book NOT written by JER? LoL

It was written by Tabitha Lenox, Kenny.

It was written by Tabitha Lenox, Kenny.

Ahhhhhhhh.

*coughs* weirdo *coughs*

OMG, I'm about to spit the Coke I'm drinking out onto my computer screen! Hahahaha. This is wonderful.

It's the truths! It all happened on screen..Timmy found Tabby's manuscript and sent it to HarperCollins...it all happened in late 2000!!

LOL. I'm going to nominate this thread, for Best Topic of 2007. But the year 'tis young.

I heard Hidden Passions was good, but didn't relate to the show.

OMG, I'm about to spit the Coke I'm drinking out onto my computer screen! Hahahaha. This is wonderful.

Pepsi is the way to go

Hidden Passions most definitely relates to the show..it tells the story of the early years in Harmony, like Julian and TC's rivarly, Eve and Julian's romance, Sam and Grace's love, etc...But JER changed Eve's past so the one depicted in the book is different from what really happened. But I chalk it up to Tabby talking artistic liberties.

Hidden Passions was good but alot of it never pertained to the show as Passions has rewritten history so many times.

This thread rocks. Lets keep it coming because there hasn't been a thread like this since the Hogan to Days threads back in June

I heard Hidden Passions was good, but didn't relate to the show.

LoL, hence the reason it was fabulous.