NothinButAttitude

RHOA: Sheree v. Kenya is a match made in shady Heaven. The exchanges and shade between the 2 is hilarious. As I've said before, I truly believe that these 2 like each other and know they need each other to remain on the show. Good to see Kenya/Phaedra drop their daggers and be civil to each other. It grew tiring watching these 2 battle it out over nothing but unfounded lies. Porsha thinking that Kenya shouldn't've kicked her out is ludicrous. You pulled this woman by her hair. You charged at Cynthia. You attacked Jami. I wouldn't allow you in my house either until you showed me you changed. Momma Joyce is a hoot. She sees what everyone else has long been saying about Phelony. Phelony is a big ass liar and should be sitting right next to Apollo in jail. I thought it was hilarious that Joyce got a talking head too. RHONJ: So glad this is all over. All I gotta say about this half of the reunion is Melissa/Joe were exposed. Chris/Jaq backed their asses in a corner numerous times. Melissa getting all angry and flustered while Jaq remained calm proved it. Just shows that maybe Melissa did orchestrate Jaq v. Tre, so that she wouldn't be the target again. Tre is a dummy. This reunion further highlighted that. She should seriously consider being a mute. Also, when she said that Kathy, Rosie, and her Aunt Maria were a disgrace to her family, I felt sick. No one is whitewashing any of their wrongdoings, but Tre has a major issue with owning her crap. That's why I will NEVER like this b-tch, and I hope Danielle dismantles her ass (if she is brought back) after getting done with Jaq and Melissa.

Tonight just showed how nasty Heavenly, Quad, and Toya are. Heavenly coming at Genise was nasty. She didn't even feel remorseful bringing up the woman's blended family after Genise's husband informed her that their mother had passed. She is a devil. Quad fat shaming her nephew's mother was new low. Who does that? Either help the woman to cook or don't. Don't insult her in the process. It must be sheer hell living with Quad. Toya is a monster. That's why her ass in deep in IRS debt. Mariah should've clobbered Toya's messy ass.

While I loved Lila, I felt that after Frankie was killed off, Cecile should've been the woman Cass ended up with. Also, Cecile being the butt of every joke in her last stint was embarrassing. Along with her putting Maggie in danger to get her trust fund. Having watched clips/episodes of Cecile from the 80s, that seems even farfetched for her to do that to Maggie. Iris remaining in jail as long as she did was stupid. They should've brought Iris/Carmen Duncan back around '97 when the show skidded off the tracks and they had Carl obsessively feuding with Grant for the 100th time. Jamie should've been brought back around that time too to take over the hospital instead of bringing on Bobby Reno, who was garbage casting coup and stupid character. I've always felt Ryan should've just remained in a coma until PMV wanted to return, which was he following year. Vicky with Bobby and later Jake was just horrible. I always looked at Vicky with major side eye for marrying Jake after the history of him raping Marley. I bought their tense friendship but never could support that pairing.

I do like Cain ... when he is not with Charity. I'll go check it out! I need as much distraction and escapism I can after these last few days.

So basically the whole story arc was to kill off the Black character?

That is one cheesy ad with Sharon Gabet in it. That would not attract me as a viewer and get me to watch. Especially, if I was a fan of Raven/EON. Poisonous dust? Egyptian tombs? Jesus. I see why AW was probably flailing around this time. This was not a story I could see being told on a P&G soap. This just wreaks of an ABC daytime soap story (preferably GH or OLTL at the time). Even DAYS. Not AW. So weird that ATWT was bouncing back around this time with simple, realistic storytelling while GL, SFT, and AW weren't. P&G should've picked up on this and sent a mandate to all the shows to stick to what they did best--human drama and family relationships. Thank God AW & GL bounced back by the end of the 80s.

I love Pete & Leyla. I hope this is something that they invest in long-term. I feel like these are some of the many characters that get tossed nothing. I think they are hot together. I think Laura Norton is good too, but as you said, I am tired of watching her doing dumb sh-t and degrade herself, which is something a girl of Victoria or Belle's age would do. It's embarrassing to watch Kerry do it along with groveling over a man. I don't even want Dan/Kerry revisited at this point. I'd like to see Dan with some like Bernice or Megan. I thought Kerry/Sam would've been interesting until she dogged him out and hurt his feelings.

I'm over her. I thought her stuff was stupid.

^ All of this. All I have to say is that Trump supporters are gonna be on the wrong side of history (again) and be eating major crow in no time short.

I thought Zak was gross in begging Belle to keep his secret too. You'd think after his affair with Joanie, he'd learn not to keep secrets. Zak grows grosser as the days pass. No! (re: Adam/Vic) I hope for once, these 2 have a pregnancy with no stipulations. I love them being the happy couple on this show. Oh I know about the spoiler, and I hope Diane goes balls to the walls on Chrissie's raggedy ass.

Caught up on ED and no Chrissie's stankin' ass got my Diane arrested!!! I wish she would've knocked the f-ck out Lachlan with that brick and slapped his jawbone loose. I hope Diane and the village do turn on the Whites and run them out of town. Zak kissing Lisa is so stupid and stale. I don't want Lisa to take him back at all even though I expect her to do so. The highlight for me is that Adam/Victoria. Finally, those 2 are having a baby. About time she helps Andy repopulate the Sugden clan. Robert ain't gonna do it anytime soon.

Oh wow. Well I don't blame Sharon Gabet either for being mad. Total waste of her talent. Obvious that once EON ended that P&G probably told the other P&G shows to snatch & grab popular actors to ensure they stayed with the product. Weird that Sharon nor Larkin's characters wouldn't last but about 2 years tops on their new shows and would both go on to ABC shows afterwards. The friendship aspect of AW is what I always felt defined this show. I always thought it was in the wheelhouse of the show. Interesting to learn it happened around this time. AW was so ahead of its time on so many things too. Diversity too. I love seeing Quinn, Lily, etc. being pivotal characters during this time instead of being 'talk-to' characters. Nice to know the show got better once again with diversity towards the end with Chris, Tyrone, and the Burrell clan. When it comes to AH's Marley, while she remained fixated on a baby, she had to be the one character in all of my soap watching that I didn't grow tired of her yearning for a baby. Maybe b/c it was AH's portrayal that helped a lot. That would've probably drove Rachel bananas, but it would've been probably good to watch. So many obvious missed opportunity with many of these shows looking back.

He won't. Remember, he is the one that ignited the fire in them and stirred the pot when he felt he was losing. Again, all his voters are gonna feel stupid when he steps away from this job. This man did not want to win.

So I am assuming that Brittany, the interloper, was not well-received by the audience as she bothered very popular Catlin/Sally? That aside, this Peter [Love] was hot! I'm guessing he does not last much longer as the character was recast and is not the Peter I am used to see when I watch old episodes. Watching the 1985 episode you posted, I realized that Marley was such a damn Mary Sue under Ellen Wheeler. I've only seen little of EW's Marley, but she annoys me from what I've seen. She seems so much of a drip. Weird b/c I enjoyed AH & JB's versions of Marley. She at least has some backbone to her and wasn't as annoying. Was Wally referring to Felicia not loving him when he was scolding Cass? The tension with Alice & Rachel was great, but didn't Alice not last much longer after this? Even though I didn't start watching AW until 94/95-ish, it always bothers me (reading up on the show) how this show basically edged the Matthews out. So reminiscent of how GL did the Bauers. Never understood writers needs to edge core families off many of these shows.

Was 1985 around the time was slowly bouncing back or was it still a dark period for the show?

(re: Le Pen's niece) And he wonders why so many of us diversities don't trust him and never well. My question is why isn't this trending or being covered in the media? This is why I haven't been watching the news as of late b/c they steady coddle Trump instead of outright calling him out. Not surprised that Trump's win has galvanized nationalist all across the world. Hitler managed to do the same thing when he rose to power. This man has reopened Pandora's Box and unleashed hell upon Earth.

Hell no! Kelly deserves a second season. Plus, I am over OC changing out women every season. This show needs stability for awhile. They need to keep Kelly (along w/ Vicki/TamRat/Shannon/Heather) and bring back Gretchen/Lizzie next season.

I knew I legit hated this felon for a reason.

I enjoyed the Houston show too. Bravo is stupid for not bothering to invest in this show & sticking it in a crappy time slot.

Have you all seen or heard about any of this? Or the Dworkin Report, which is supposed to delve into Trump's ties to Russia? http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/11/11/obama-now-looking-trumps-ties-russia-fbi-ignored/

I agree but I'd keep Jed & Sunny as they are the best additions in a long time.

@P.J., you are gonna leave my Scott Holmes alone!

Can we discuss how Andy pissed me off in that clip? I hate that he calls Kelly out for her bad behavior, but I've never seen him call TamRat out on her sh-t and she's done the same thing as Kelly if not worse.

Oh that same meme, Trump voters were denouncing but now that see that, that exact meme clearly holds some truth to it. Trump is a performer. Bamboozling these people was a cakewalk for him. He's built an empire off of manipulating and robbing little people. Hillary and the Democrats brought out a plethora of Trump workers to back their claims. The people that voted for him ignored the facts and pleas and now they are gonna suffer. Why should you? We've 'libertards' (as they love to refer to us as) warned them from the start that Trump is snake oil salesman. Now they are gonna suffer the most. Minorities aren't gonna suffer b/c all of us know how to survive and hustle. We have from the start. It is middle and working class White families that are gonna struggle b/c they were sold a dream that won't come to fruition. This is what happens when people don't do research and listen to what they wanna hear.

Kelly v. Heather sneak peek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFi6FA03baY