NothinButAttitude

IMO, it was disappointing. I think out of his entire regime, I only stories enjoyed Toni's rape/Nick being falsely accused and Paulina's pill addiction. Everything else was blah (to me). He brought on Tyrone, and I think he brought on Lila, which were pluses too. While I still loved and somewhat enjoyed the show around this time, I didn't care for a lot of the crap. Grant was further being made a mustache twirling villain that long needed to be declawed. Cindy started groveling over yet another man (now Grant), which annoyed me as I saw potential in her to grow on her own. Joe's constant berating of Paulina grew tiring to the point I wanted him to be killed off. I totally didn't care about Shane/Vicky/Jake triangle as I felt Vicky deserved to be paired with someone better than both of them. Felicia, Cass, Carl, and Rachel were thrown scraps and stupid stories around this time.

IDK why it is causing meltdowns when it is been established he is bisexual. It is also in Robert's wheelhouse to be an unfaithful, wondering eyed whore. That's just who he is. UK fans are slowly becoming like US fans with these couple ships, which has caused a lot of detriment to our soaps. They just need to chill out and go for the ride.

Good. Racist b*tch needs to exit stage left. She should've never spoke ill will against Michelle Obama.

*sighs* As I've said before, I am over Kerry. I hope that Rishi & Jai win in the end over her stupid a**. God. I am so sick of her. Oh Robert! Why did he let Diane hear that his whole intention of going after Lawrence/Chrissie is to get Home Farm? I hate that they've made this his motivation too.

RHOC: I am so glad that Kelly is unapologetic to these women. It bothers these women (especially Shannon/Heather) to the core that she won't cower to them and I love it. Shannon was so defensive tonight when it came to her marriage. Lady, your husband cheated much like Vicki/Donn did in their marriage. Stop trying to whitewash the situation. You're marriage is doomed and it's obvious. Calling it now that Shannon's story next year (if she's brought back) is her leaving David. Producers were the MVP tonight. I hollered in joy when they presented receipts of TamRat bringing up other folks kids and being violent in the past. What pissed me off though is that Andy didn't hold her feet to the fire about either situations. Kelly should've dug into her more about that too. Heather did herself no justice tonight. She came off as an elitist bitch tonight. Her apology to Kelly was sh-t, and her excuse for leaving the Japanese restaurant was even crappier. One of the joys this season was that Heather finally got exposed to those who were long mesmerized by her. I was never fooled by her as I've always knew she was trashy like other women on the OC; she just has more money than them. Cannot wait until next week when Shannon runs off stage and Vicki/Kelly dig into Heather's a**.

Apollo is engaged while still married to Phraudra Parks! http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/14/apollo-nida-prison-engaged-rhoa/

RHOA: Sheree v. Kenya is a match made in shady Heaven. The exchanges and shade between the 2 is hilarious. As I've said before, I truly believe that these 2 like each other and know they need each other to remain on the show. Good to see Kenya/Phaedra drop their daggers and be civil to each other. It grew tiring watching these 2 battle it out over nothing but unfounded lies. Porsha thinking that Kenya shouldn't've kicked her out is ludicrous. You pulled this woman by her hair. You charged at Cynthia. You attacked Jami. I wouldn't allow you in my house either until you showed me you changed. Momma Joyce is a hoot. She sees what everyone else has long been saying about Phelony. Phelony is a big ass liar and should be sitting right next to Apollo in jail. I thought it was hilarious that Joyce got a talking head too. RHONJ: So glad this is all over. All I gotta say about this half of the reunion is Melissa/Joe were exposed. Chris/Jaq backed their asses in a corner numerous times. Melissa getting all angry and flustered while Jaq remained calm proved it. Just shows that maybe Melissa did orchestrate Jaq v. Tre, so that she wouldn't be the target again. Tre is a dummy. This reunion further highlighted that. She should seriously consider being a mute. Also, when she said that Kathy, Rosie, and her Aunt Maria were a disgrace to her family, I felt sick. No one is whitewashing any of their wrongdoings, but Tre has a major issue with owning her crap. That's why I will NEVER like this b-tch, and I hope Danielle dismantles her ass (if she is brought back) after getting done with Jaq and Melissa.

Tonight just showed how nasty Heavenly, Quad, and Toya are. Heavenly coming at Genise was nasty. She didn't even feel remorseful bringing up the woman's blended family after Genise's husband informed her that their mother had passed. She is a devil. Quad fat shaming her nephew's mother was new low. Who does that? Either help the woman to cook or don't. Don't insult her in the process. It must be sheer hell living with Quad. Toya is a monster. That's why her ass in deep in IRS debt. Mariah should've clobbered Toya's messy ass.

While I loved Lila, I felt that after Frankie was killed off, Cecile should've been the woman Cass ended up with. Also, Cecile being the butt of every joke in her last stint was embarrassing. Along with her putting Maggie in danger to get her trust fund. Having watched clips/episodes of Cecile from the 80s, that seems even farfetched for her to do that to Maggie. Iris remaining in jail as long as she did was stupid. They should've brought Iris/Carmen Duncan back around '97 when the show skidded off the tracks and they had Carl obsessively feuding with Grant for the 100th time. Jamie should've been brought back around that time too to take over the hospital instead of bringing on Bobby Reno, who was garbage casting coup and stupid character. I've always felt Ryan should've just remained in a coma until PMV wanted to return, which was he following year. Vicky with Bobby and later Jake was just horrible. I always looked at Vicky with major side eye for marrying Jake after the history of him raping Marley. I bought their tense friendship but never could support that pairing.

I do like Cain ... when he is not with Charity. I'll go check it out! I need as much distraction and escapism I can after these last few days.

So basically the whole story arc was to kill off the Black character?

That is one cheesy ad with Sharon Gabet in it. That would not attract me as a viewer and get me to watch. Especially, if I was a fan of Raven/EON. Poisonous dust? Egyptian tombs? Jesus. I see why AW was probably flailing around this time. This was not a story I could see being told on a P&G soap. This just wreaks of an ABC daytime soap story (preferably GH or OLTL at the time). Even DAYS. Not AW. So weird that ATWT was bouncing back around this time with simple, realistic storytelling while GL, SFT, and AW weren't. P&G should've picked up on this and sent a mandate to all the shows to stick to what they did best--human drama and family relationships. Thank God AW & GL bounced back by the end of the 80s.

I love Pete & Leyla. I hope this is something that they invest in long-term. I feel like these are some of the many characters that get tossed nothing. I think they are hot together. I think Laura Norton is good too, but as you said, I am tired of watching her doing dumb sh-t and degrade herself, which is something a girl of Victoria or Belle's age would do. It's embarrassing to watch Kerry do it along with groveling over a man. I don't even want Dan/Kerry revisited at this point. I'd like to see Dan with some like Bernice or Megan. I thought Kerry/Sam would've been interesting until she dogged him out and hurt his feelings.

I'm over her. I thought her stuff was stupid.

^ All of this. All I have to say is that Trump supporters are gonna be on the wrong side of history (again) and be eating major crow in no time short.

I thought Zak was gross in begging Belle to keep his secret too. You'd think after his affair with Joanie, he'd learn not to keep secrets. Zak grows grosser as the days pass. No! (re: Adam/Vic) I hope for once, these 2 have a pregnancy with no stipulations. I love them being the happy couple on this show. Oh I know about the spoiler, and I hope Diane goes balls to the walls on Chrissie's raggedy ass.

Caught up on ED and no Chrissie's stankin' ass got my Diane arrested!!! I wish she would've knocked the f-ck out Lachlan with that brick and slapped his jawbone loose. I hope Diane and the village do turn on the Whites and run them out of town. Zak kissing Lisa is so stupid and stale. I don't want Lisa to take him back at all even though I expect her to do so. The highlight for me is that Adam/Victoria. Finally, those 2 are having a baby. About time she helps Andy repopulate the Sugden clan. Robert ain't gonna do it anytime soon.

Oh wow. Well I don't blame Sharon Gabet either for being mad. Total waste of her talent. Obvious that once EON ended that P&G probably told the other P&G shows to snatch & grab popular actors to ensure they stayed with the product. Weird that Sharon nor Larkin's characters wouldn't last but about 2 years tops on their new shows and would both go on to ABC shows afterwards. The friendship aspect of AW is what I always felt defined this show. I always thought it was in the wheelhouse of the show. Interesting to learn it happened around this time. AW was so ahead of its time on so many things too. Diversity too. I love seeing Quinn, Lily, etc. being pivotal characters during this time instead of being 'talk-to' characters. Nice to know the show got better once again with diversity towards the end with Chris, Tyrone, and the Burrell clan. When it comes to AH's Marley, while she remained fixated on a baby, she had to be the one character in all of my soap watching that I didn't grow tired of her yearning for a baby. Maybe b/c it was AH's portrayal that helped a lot. That would've probably drove Rachel bananas, but it would've been probably good to watch. So many obvious missed opportunity with many of these shows looking back.

He won't. Remember, he is the one that ignited the fire in them and stirred the pot when he felt he was losing. Again, all his voters are gonna feel stupid when he steps away from this job. This man did not want to win.

So I am assuming that Brittany, the interloper, was not well-received by the audience as she bothered very popular Catlin/Sally? That aside, this Peter [Love] was hot! I'm guessing he does not last much longer as the character was recast and is not the Peter I am used to see when I watch old episodes. Watching the 1985 episode you posted, I realized that Marley was such a damn Mary Sue under Ellen Wheeler. I've only seen little of EW's Marley, but she annoys me from what I've seen. She seems so much of a drip. Weird b/c I enjoyed AH & JB's versions of Marley. She at least has some backbone to her and wasn't as annoying. Was Wally referring to Felicia not loving him when he was scolding Cass? The tension with Alice & Rachel was great, but didn't Alice not last much longer after this? Even though I didn't start watching AW until 94/95-ish, it always bothers me (reading up on the show) how this show basically edged the Matthews out. So reminiscent of how GL did the Bauers. Never understood writers needs to edge core families off many of these shows.

Was 1985 around the time was slowly bouncing back or was it still a dark period for the show?

(re: Le Pen's niece) And he wonders why so many of us diversities don't trust him and never well. My question is why isn't this trending or being covered in the media? This is why I haven't been watching the news as of late b/c they steady coddle Trump instead of outright calling him out. Not surprised that Trump's win has galvanized nationalist all across the world. Hitler managed to do the same thing when he rose to power. This man has reopened Pandora's Box and unleashed hell upon Earth.

Hell no! Kelly deserves a second season. Plus, I am over OC changing out women every season. This show needs stability for awhile. They need to keep Kelly (along w/ Vicki/TamRat/Shannon/Heather) and bring back Gretchen/Lizzie next season.

I knew I legit hated this felon for a reason.

I enjoyed the Houston show too. Bravo is stupid for not bothering to invest in this show & sticking it in a crappy time slot.