NothinButAttitude

Wow. CBS wouldn't allow for them to announce their new network? It's the least they could do. No wonder why the show lost a fraction of its audience in the move.

Exactly. I said I would've showed out had that been me. But whatever. @DaytimeFan, I was just thinking about you watching the OC. RHOC: 1. Meghan saw first hand tonight that the Coven (Heather/Tamra/Shannon) aren't her friends. She was always a number for them and used to bring down Vicki. Had she not been pregnant this season, I think they would've turned their talons on her too. Heather sure did tonight by calling her out about the Glamis incident. 2. Tamra calling Vicki old ... bitch, you ain't a spring chicken your damn self! 3. Shannon looked more guilty when it came to trying to get Kelly to drink. She could explain herself out of that situation to save her ass. 4. Vicki and Kelly need to work on their allegiance to one another. Kelly totally f-cked up and flipped on Vicki a bit towards the end. In my opinion, I think Kelly flipped on Vicki a bit to stick it back to her for the crap in Ireland. 5. I believe Vicki. I believe Shannon got her ass whooped by David b/c she was too belligerent when Vicki brought up that other people heard her. I think Shannon knows it that other people know about David tap dancing on her skull and wants to keep it hush hush. Like I've said before, I see all of this coming ahead if Shannon does not remove her ass from this show, which I know she won't. David better be prepared to be tossed under the bus next season for Shannon's story.

Really?! F-ck! I wish someone would upload those to public domain so we can see them. Me too. I go there to read movie & TV scripts all the time.

There could be archived scripts that P&G kept, but we'll never know. P&G has basically wrapped up tight anything involving their soaps. If anything pops up it is b/c fans got their hands on it and released it, or actors did. I do know that a few years back that some soaps scripts were on Amazon and Ebay being sold, but I am sure they've been bought by now. I love how EastEnders have a small little archive for aspiring writers to look at on their writer's website even though they aren't episodes from the show's start (from about '05). Something is better than nothing. There is a B&B script on SimplyScripts though.

Didn't someone on here awhile back say that a school in California possibly had some? Or was that old footage of the show? It's either or. I think the only script most people will have access to is the one they offered fans with the DVD sale of CarJack's wedding. Luckily, I have that. I doubt this show kept archives of scripts. It'd be better going to the actors and asking if they have any old ones. Just like how Martha Byrne (I think) gave WLS access to her copy of the show's rough draft story bible she got.

RHOA: Production needs to seriously work on bringing this show together cohesively. 1. Kandi's baby daddy girl friend popping up mic'd up is so damn odd. It is obvious that it shocked Kandi and her clique, but production is f-cked up for that. Obvious they pushed this woman into doing that. If they wanted the scene to be more organic, they should've had her walk in not mic'd up. People caught onto that real quick. 2. Anything concerning Lena. Why would we care about scenes with Lena when she isn't an official housewife or friend? That scene was so out of place b/c no one we cared for was in it. See, this is why I say they should sign these women on from the start, so they know where they stand. Cutting all Lena's stuff out has already put a big plot hole in the season that was unnecessary. Moving on, Kenya handled Matt's sister well. I would've grew tired of her coming after me at the lunch. I would've showed out and told her to back the f-ck off. That's just me (who happens to be a hothead). Matt's parents, on the other hand, were a joy. I am not here for Porsha begging her ex to bust a nut in her. Funny that she was cackling alongside Phaedra about 2-3 seasons ago about Kenya unable to get a man to knock her up and begging Walter to do the same, yet she's emulating Kenya's old stories. Bye, Porsha. Kandi's breakdown was sad to watch. It is obvious that Block (Kandi's baby dad) is an arrogant twat and wanted nothing to do with Riley. His actions in that studio alone said it all. He is clearly using Riley to get his girlfriend a spot on the show. That's why she went over to see Kandi. She was hoping this'll get her a spot on the show. I cannot wait for next week to see Kenya v. Sheree (again) with Kenya calling Sheree's wig the same one that Momma Joyce wears. Kandi's reaction to that was everything. She wanted to pop Kenya badly for that comment.

Young Turks post this interesting video a few hours ago: So misogynistic that all these men have hidden emails they don't want uncovered, but Hillary got raked over the coals for it.

(re: NY/NJ) True. I do disagree that the newbies were poor choices. The twins, though I hated them, were a few of the cast members to stand up against Tre, call her on her crap, and not be scared. That 'clink-clink' comment sent Teresa into a tailspin. She didn't like it. What I didn't like about the twins were the spouses. Bobby was a blatant famewhore, and Angelo acted like a knockoff Marlon Brando in The Godfather. I didn't mind Amber either as she was pot-stirrer. My only gripe with her was Jim, who was too aware of the cameras. He was like a poor man's version of Peter (RHOA). He didn't know how to stir the pot right and he stayed disrespecting the women, which was appalling. Yes, they should've skipped bringing Kristen on the show as she brought nothing to the table. The one time she could've (when Josh was wrapped up in that Ashley Madison scandal), she opted not to resign on. The OC did the NY treatment after s8 when Gretchen and Alexis got the boot, and Lydia opted not to sign back on. With TamRat being in trouble with the law for sending those pics, I would think Bravo would wanna get rid of her as a liability but sitting on the idea, I know they won't. This is gonna fuel Vicki v. Tamra this season. I think that with Meghan going, they won't shake up the cast that much, and Kelly will be thrown a reprieve. That's why I say bring back Lizzie/Gretchen. The two are liked by the audience. The two are good friends, which'll provide fun, lighthearted scenes. The two are friends with Kelly/Vicki, which'll provide the two more allies. The two are youthful, which'll drive OC's self-proclaimed 'hottest housewife' (Tamra) into a tizzy. The two are entrepreneurs. Lizzie more than Gretchen but still. The two are of the few that called Tamra on her sh-t and nailed her to the wall numerous times. Plus, this show needs about 7-8 women on the cast. Six just never cuts it with this show b/c there tends to be a filler bullsh--t. I need 7-8 drama queens on this show next season. Kelly saved the show this season. She can't pull the same antics next season as she has to cool off. I think it was drastic (but great) b/c the tone of the show changed. It wasn't so much as toxic (at that time) as the show had became in s4 even though s4 was my favorite season along with s5.

Trump is still out here wheeling and dealing: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/us/politics/donald-trump-pauses-transition-work-to-meet-with-indian-business-partners.html?_r=1

Hence the reason why this moron [Trump] doesn't need Twitter. He's gonna say or do something so stupid to land in his goofy a** in bigger trouble. I'm fearful the idiot might do something stupid like tweet something confidential to the world to see. He's just that stupid.

Here's my main question--why does this dumbass still have a Twitter?!

I don't get why the show is getting rid of him either. Outside of Buster and Dean, he was the only other interesting Carter. Them having hardly rehearsal time makes sense. It showed. Tilly should've been cast as someone other than Louise. Just so awkward seeing her play younger than what she looks.

^ Sheree does have a temper. But as I've said before, this Kenya v. Sheree rivalry is strictly for cameras. I strongly believe that these 2 made a pact to 'beef,' so they'd keep their peach positions on the show. I bet money these 2 get along very well off camera. When it comes to the OC, Vicki is not going anywhere. She's a Bravo relic. She'll leave when she chooses too. I actually don't find Vicki to be toxic. Kelly either. The toxic party is Heather, Shannon, and Tamra. Those 3 had nothing going on this season, so they had to poke and prod Kelly and Vicki, who carried this season. I don't see anyone getting the boot out of those 5 though. Especially, now that Meghan is supposedly leaving. I think Bravo realizes that drastically changes casts rarely work on these shows. RHOA s5 (with the introduction of Kenya & Porsha) was the only time it was truly successful. The shift of RHONY in s5 nearly killed the show. Same with NJ in s6. Like I've said, if Bravo were smart, they'd keep Kelly/Vicki/TamRat/ShanLoon/Pleather and bring back Gretchen & Lizzie. Gretchen & Lizzie are close friends. Both of them have bones to pick with numerous women on the cast. Both of them are close to Vicki and Kelly. Also, Vicki has been campaigning for their returns. I've always thought the show as stupid in getting rid of Lizzie b/c she was successful (business-wise) and had a great marriage. As you said too, she didn't take crap from anyone and was very observant. Gretchen needs to return for the primary reason to annoy the f-ck out of Heather & Tamra, who both actively wanted her out after s8 and were successful.

I can see Danny Boy Hatchard trying his hand at Broadway if he wanted too. That seems to be up his alley anyways, and I think he'd flourish at it. Danny Boy, Richard, Shaheen, Bonnie, and Shona shined the most. James looked uncoordinated and disinterested. That intro with Danny Dyer...

I am just gonna miss the Masood clan. Besides the Foxes, they were one of the last great families on EE. No other family that has come on since has been able to do the show justice like they have. It is gonna be a big ass gap on the show that is gonna be hard to fill.

@DRW50 I think his goodbyes with Denise were the only thing that touched me. Everything else didn't. I didn't care for Carmel or Jane at all. I always felt both were undeserving of Masood.

I thought Masood's exit tonight was good. I enjoyed the scenes between him and Denise. Just a reminder that the Masoods are officially all off the Square. Just tragic.

I just wanna know why is it OK for Giuliani to make money off speeches to foreign countries (and actually make WAY more than HRC), but it wasn't OK for her to do it either? What's even worse is that he spoke with a terrorist group (MEK) and got paid for it. Such hypocrites...

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I've grown to love to hate the Whites. I don't want them to go yet. I want Diane to lead a lynch mob, torture them, and then they can go. But there are other characters (Kerry) I'd love to see go way before them. I don't want Jimmy to turn to Bernice either. As I've said before, I wish they'd toss Dan in her orbit. I'm over Bernice bedding men that aren't hers. For once, I'd like to see her get a man that isn't attached to anyone or she is attached to anyone. I think she and Dan would be a good pairing. With tonight's episode, why didn't Diane shoot the sh-t out of Chrissie?! I so wanted her to do it. I did love the nod to Sarah tonight as well. Diane is right that Sarah would not like what Robert has turned into.

Well I am with you as I don't find Dan boring. I adore him and wish they'd spread him out more on the canvas. I hope they explore him becoming a paramedic too. Dan is one of the few bright spots on this show. I just over Kerry. It took 2 months flat for me to be over her. I might be overreacting but I am seriously over her. Her acting like a childish twat this past week made it no better. I just want her gone. I'd OK with Paddy/Zak going. Zak using Joanie and Lisa has made me dislike him even more. I've never really cared for Paddy all that much but his handling of the Tess situation did him in for me. I don't care to watch him pine over Rhona, but then again, put him back with her. I'd rather Pierce be single and mingling throughout the village anyways. I'd be all for Harriet/Pierce.

I think the Kerry stuff was stupid. As aforementioned, I am over her. I hope Rishi and Jai nail her ass to the cross, which leads to her leaving the village. She can with Joanie. IMO, the best thing would be for Joanie and Kerry to ride off in the sunset with Kyle in tow. I am not surprised that Jermaine will be gone soon either. They've just never tried to assimilate him into the canvas well. Sucks b/c I feel like he'd great back in his role as the village doctor. I think he also has good chemistry with Megan too. I get this eerie, ominous feeling that ED is about to be like EE and start cutting people. Most likely, Blackburn & Oates characters. I hope Dan & Harriet are spared as I enjoy them.

Oh Lord. The infamous Hadley Prescott story, which I thought did so much damage to Matthew & Amanda as they regressed in their relationship with Carl. I hated that story. Cindy and the fertility statue was stupid too. Again, I felt it just made Cindy a constant groveler and it lessened her as a character.

Well I am over fans like this. They kill a TV show and characters in its process. Did they honestly expect Robron to last forever? This is a soap. I hope the show does not indulge them at all. If the story is there for Robert to move on past Aaron (or vice versa), move on.