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Oh I am not worried about Don the Con getting to some device to express his opinion on this whole ordeal, @OzFrog. It's gonna happen. Watch how he slyly suggests to get his deranged voters to threaten & target Jill to prevent this from going forward. But seeing how stubborn Jill has been this entire election, she'll push forward. Hillary needs to sit back and remain silent throughout this whole ordeal and let the chips fall as they may. Let Jill and the Green Party do all the work. If necessary, I'd want to Jill to get enough money to do a recount here in Georgia too. It was just too sketchy here how the polls closed at 7 PM, but the winner wasn't determined till towards the end of the night. She should try raising money for it in North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida too. I hope she goes ALL out.

Is Jill for real? And she reached her target to?! I don't care for Jill's politics at all but the outcome of all of this is gonna be messy! I am here for it all! KellyAnne and them better grab that phone & cut the Internet b/c Cheeto man is gonna go bananas. If something scandalous is revealed out of all of this and HRC is determined the true winner, Hillz better offer Jill a real cushy position in her cabinet. She'd owe Jill's ass BIG TIME.

Seriously?! Good God this show was all over the place. Who in their right minds thought it'd be good to kill off Margo in the end right after we had already lost Nancy? I swear Goutman and Passanantate can't read a room to save their lives. If anyone died in the end, it should've been that wretched Janet, Liberty, or Craig's new bastard child, Gabriel.

I am in the minority where I wanted her as Marah.

Bogue as Rick? I just don't see it. I think MOL's issue was that the writers marginalized him in anything post-Abby. He would be tossed a bone every blue moon, but it wasn't much. I fret over all the missed story opportunities they could've had with Rick. In the last few years after Rick left Mel for Beth, they should've had Leah be a terror to Beth for breaking up her family and for Rick keeping the secret from Mel about his part in Ross' death/helping Phillip escape. I hate how Blake's sins were whitewashed away too. I enjoyed Holly giving Ross/Blake much deserved hell, but hated how everyone tried to peg her as bitter for doing so. Marah and Shayne should've returned permanently around 2006 when Reva got breast cancer. I know people hated Martha Madison, but I so wanted her to be recast as Marah.

Oh I didn't forget about those 3 too. Tom Pelphrey was another one that stayed bed hopping. Didn't he allegedly come between Brandon Barash and Natalie Hall too? When E! did Dirty Soap, they should've cast a bit harder b/c with the right stars, they could've had a messy ass show that would've been ratings gold.

Scandalous. Classic case as to why you don't sh-t where you eat. I do wish I could've been a fly on the wall on that set when Mandy/Rob got together and it became public knowledge around the set. I bet it was messy...

Marina and Mallet was gross as he was her godfather and uncle at one point. It just frustrated me watching them try and sell this pairing. In soaps, there are should be some boundaries and this was one of the times it was crossed. GL just became one major incest cesspool by the end of the show. I enjoyed RB as Mallet too, but I loved him only with Dinah. Didn't BE supposedly try and proposition RB or something along that nature? The rumors and smut going on behind the scenes of GL the last 3-5 years was way more interesting than what was occurring onscreen.

I hated any story they gave Gilly after nixing her supposed pairing with Alan Michael. That story with her messing with that man that became her daddy ... gross! She should've been in a cameo at the end too. The Grants & Speakes were a bright spot for GL in the early 90s. Michael Dempsey was hot but he was no Alan Michael. I thought Alan Michael's return story was stupid too. I just never would picture him doing stuff he did his last run. Especially, bedding Marina. Wasn't she once believed to be his child? That reminds me how they had Craig boinking Dani on ATWT. That sh-t pissed me having seen old clips of Craig loving that girl as his daughter. Gross and pure lazy storytelling.

(re: Lucy) True. At first I did, but I grew to like Lucy on her own thanks to the Brent Lawrence story and her romance with Alan Michael, which at first pissed me off b/c I wanted Gilly/Alan Michael. During that whole time period, I will never understand how GL didn't persuade Ric Hearst back as he was practically gone off GH by then. Around that same time, they stupidly didn't snag Vincent Irizarry back from AMC but whatever. I don't think the whole Peapack shooting would've appeased to them anyways. Speaking of returning characters at the end, I so wish that GL would've brought Amelia Marshall/Gilly back. I missed Gilly, Fletcher, Holly, Nick, Roger, etc. at WSPR and Springfield Journal. Those were the days.

Yes, he was a sanctimonious ass but I just grew used to it. I was NOT here for Josh becoming a minister. I hated that story. I somewhat wish that they would've resisted the Diamonhead Organization and Lewis Oil instead of that crap. Or put Lewis Oil/Construction and Spaulding at war again. Josh needed something to drive him outside of Reva. It was draining watching the 2 go in circles. Oh crap. I forgot about Leanna Lewis. I did enjoy her as a talk show host too b/c it shook up the entire canvas. I didn't mind Cutting Edge on AMC, but much like Reva, I didn't care for Erica being a talk show host. I always felt it was another OTT thing to put Erica in when I felt Enchantment was more up her speed. Oh I'd love for Robert Newman to be on daytime again. Grant too. I was so hoping that pic of him visiting Judi and Vincent on DAYS led to him joining. I think Grant and Kristian [Alfonso] would fire. Anything would be better than her with Rafe. I'd love for Robert Newman to be on Y&R as a love interest for Jill or Ashley, but it'd never happen. This is around the time I too grew tired of Harley. I was glad when Beth Ehlers opted to leave. I was over Harley by then. I waffled back and forth as to whether I'd want the character recast, but by the end, I was OK with seeing the backside of Harley. I am quite surprised they didn't recast though as Kreizman and Wheeler were obsessed with Harley and the Coopers. I am even more shocked they never tried bringing Lucy back.

But his pairing with Cassie was no better. I do think how they marginalized Robert Newman was a crime. That man is the total package. He can act and is still damn sexy. He was also the constant on the show the last 2.5 decades of the show. They should've really centered Josh as a patriarchal figure on the show, and did more stories with him and Billy at Lewis Oil. I forgot Reva was a talk show host. I find that bit so stupid on soaps. Only character on soaps that was a convincing talk show host was Kim with Patterns on ATWT. I just feel that is a job they give larger than life characters on soaps when they can't find crap else for them to do for the time.

I don't blame them, but (again) that's what happen when the characters have nothing to offer more than a pairing. Reva's whole arc since KZ's return was her constantly chasing and trying to keep Josh. Going back and watching KZ's original run on the show, Reva at least had ambitions/jobs. I remember seeing clips of her working at the hospital and later the newspaper during the Kyle era and forming a bond with Fletcher. Reva excelled when she was out her element and interacted with others. I don't ever remember having a damn job from her return or having ambitions. If she did, it was short-lived. They should've kept Reva/Josh together instead of having him go to Cassie. From 2006 onwards, their stories should've centered around Marah/Shayne, (both who should've been brought back years before the finale), and Lewis Oil. This is why I say soaps need to bring back workplace stories.

Every character on these shows need to be able to stand alone and be interesting on their own. That's why I love Emmerdale b/c most of the characters have their own little quirks that make them able to stand on their own and don't need a relationship to do so. US soaps should adapt to that while maintaining romance elements.

This is why soaps need to move away from supercouples and focus on individual character growth/progression. Supercouples become stale by the 3rd or 4th time they are broken up.

Doesn't this promo somewhat seem like the ones Santa Barbara put out with Eden/Cruz?

They still could've tossed SFT a dog bone. Wasn't it CBS oldest show at that point? It's original soap?

True but it's jacked up. I went to go look at the yearly ratings after you post this and SFT was still averaging a 6.7. They dropped to a 2.7 with the move and remained there to the bitter end. Had CBS simply allowed them to announce their move to NBC, SFT might've lasted a bit longer.

Wow. CBS wouldn't allow for them to announce their new network? It's the least they could do. No wonder why the show lost a fraction of its audience in the move.

Exactly. I said I would've showed out had that been me. But whatever. @DaytimeFan, I was just thinking about you watching the OC. RHOC: 1. Meghan saw first hand tonight that the Coven (Heather/Tamra/Shannon) aren't her friends. She was always a number for them and used to bring down Vicki. Had she not been pregnant this season, I think they would've turned their talons on her too. Heather sure did tonight by calling her out about the Glamis incident. 2. Tamra calling Vicki old ... bitch, you ain't a spring chicken your damn self! 3. Shannon looked more guilty when it came to trying to get Kelly to drink. She could explain herself out of that situation to save her ass. 4. Vicki and Kelly need to work on their allegiance to one another. Kelly totally f-cked up and flipped on Vicki a bit towards the end. In my opinion, I think Kelly flipped on Vicki a bit to stick it back to her for the crap in Ireland. 5. I believe Vicki. I believe Shannon got her ass whooped by David b/c she was too belligerent when Vicki brought up that other people heard her. I think Shannon knows it that other people know about David tap dancing on her skull and wants to keep it hush hush. Like I've said before, I see all of this coming ahead if Shannon does not remove her ass from this show, which I know she won't. David better be prepared to be tossed under the bus next season for Shannon's story.

Really?! F-ck! I wish someone would upload those to public domain so we can see them. Me too. I go there to read movie & TV scripts all the time.

There could be archived scripts that P&G kept, but we'll never know. P&G has basically wrapped up tight anything involving their soaps. If anything pops up it is b/c fans got their hands on it and released it, or actors did. I do know that a few years back that some soaps scripts were on Amazon and Ebay being sold, but I am sure they've been bought by now. I love how EastEnders have a small little archive for aspiring writers to look at on their writer's website even though they aren't episodes from the show's start (from about '05). Something is better than nothing. There is a B&B script on SimplyScripts though.

Didn't someone on here awhile back say that a school in California possibly had some? Or was that old footage of the show? It's either or. I think the only script most people will have access to is the one they offered fans with the DVD sale of CarJack's wedding. Luckily, I have that. I doubt this show kept archives of scripts. It'd be better going to the actors and asking if they have any old ones. Just like how Martha Byrne (I think) gave WLS access to her copy of the show's rough draft story bible she got.

RHOA: Production needs to seriously work on bringing this show together cohesively. 1. Kandi's baby daddy girl friend popping up mic'd up is so damn odd. It is obvious that it shocked Kandi and her clique, but production is f-cked up for that. Obvious they pushed this woman into doing that. If they wanted the scene to be more organic, they should've had her walk in not mic'd up. People caught onto that real quick. 2. Anything concerning Lena. Why would we care about scenes with Lena when she isn't an official housewife or friend? That scene was so out of place b/c no one we cared for was in it. See, this is why I say they should sign these women on from the start, so they know where they stand. Cutting all Lena's stuff out has already put a big plot hole in the season that was unnecessary. Moving on, Kenya handled Matt's sister well. I would've grew tired of her coming after me at the lunch. I would've showed out and told her to back the f-ck off. That's just me (who happens to be a hothead). Matt's parents, on the other hand, were a joy. I am not here for Porsha begging her ex to bust a nut in her. Funny that she was cackling alongside Phaedra about 2-3 seasons ago about Kenya unable to get a man to knock her up and begging Walter to do the same, yet she's emulating Kenya's old stories. Bye, Porsha. Kandi's breakdown was sad to watch. It is obvious that Block (Kandi's baby dad) is an arrogant twat and wanted nothing to do with Riley. His actions in that studio alone said it all. He is clearly using Riley to get his girlfriend a spot on the show. That's why she went over to see Kandi. She was hoping this'll get her a spot on the show. I cannot wait for next week to see Kenya v. Sheree (again) with Kenya calling Sheree's wig the same one that Momma Joyce wears. Kandi's reaction to that was everything. She wanted to pop Kenya badly for that comment.