NothinButAttitude

Scandalous. So is Perry Fenwick no longer on the show? I have not seen or heard about Billy being onscreen at all as of late. I'm beginning to believe the Steve McFadden/Phil rumor though as we have not seen Phil in months, which is fine with me.

^ I need to pick back up with 80s ATWT too as I slacked once 90s episodes of GL started to get uploaded. I stopped watching vintage ATWT around '88. I seriously need to pick back up.

I didn't like Vicky/Jake either. Sorry but I found that pairing repulsing. I could buy them as friends. As lovers? Hell no. He raped her sister. I HATE how the show tossed that aside. Vicky would've never gotten with w/ Jake. Jake's soulmate was Paulina and that's who he should've ended up with. It should've been him instead of Frankie. Joe was not needed at all. We already had a good amount of law enforcement characters in Ryan, Frankie, Josie, and Gary by the time Joe popped up. I even liked Gabe more than Joe.

That's stupid that NBC was unhappy about that. What did they expect? Carl & Rachel were the only stable couple on the show the last 3-4 years of the show. Of course people would flock to them. People could add Joe/Paulina to the list as being the other stable couple on the show, but who was fanning out over them? Especially, with Joe being the chauvinistic pig he was.

Sucks NBC felt that way as AW made them tons of money early on and was their breakout daytime series. I hate how these networks forget that it was the soaps that funded the entire networks at times and built their loyal audiences.

Low ratings, P&G wanting out of soaps--the same reasons P&G got rid of GL & ATWT.

^ If anything, tomorrow is gonna mark the anniversary of the day that soaps officially died. Once AW was cancelled, it seemed like the entire genre started to unglue and fall apart. They haven't recovered since.

We do have one... Auntie Maxine is one of the few politicians I think is honest & clean (as far as I know).

That's stupid. I would actually like to see some of the Redwater arc spill over into EE. At least Kat's arc.

So the show is not coming back? Where does that leave Kat and Alfie?

They can just wipe out all the Whites if you ask me. Easy task. I still get pissed over how they squandered Pierce, who could've been the village's hot, sexy bachelor after parting ways with Rhona. I hate how they made him into a rapist.

Looks like it is confirmed that Adam Thomas is leaving: http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a831388/emmerdale-exit-adam-barton-cast-changes-adam-thomas/ I hope they don't kill him off and just have him leave the village with Vic being heartbroken.

Hell no to Santer too. While he gave me my precious Masoods, he also brought up the trashy Mitchell sisters, who I liked at first but were eager when they died. He also brought on Jack too, who still grates my nerves despite me pitying him earlier this year. I didn't see Redwater but I read up on it. I read about the so-called shocking finale. They should've just left Kat and Alfie on the damn Square even though Alfie was getting on my last damn nerve.

Is there someone from the show's golden eras that is still alive that can come in and takeover permanently?

Hell naw to someone who loves the Carters. Alexander Lamb--whoever the hell he is can stay in the background. CarterEnders was the worst time of the show for me throughout the past ten years. I find the Carters to be more grating than the Moon Bros., who unlike most I didn't mind. And seeing as you pointed out he had a hand in Bobby killing Lucy, he can most definitely not be it. Collinson... meh. He wasn't great but he was horrible (at times). At least his Corrie was a bit watchable compared to Blackburn. But I am with you where I want someone new and unheard of to emerge as the leader of EE.

Well that was stupid that Pam Long didn't see her as a heroine AND a vamp character too b/c Reva was a heroine and smutty too, and that was Pam Long's greatest creation. Maybe this is why he possible did wanna do that b/c she'd assume people would think that she was trying to do Reva over again, which isn't bad. All great writers borrow from their previous works.

So who does everyone think that they should get to takeover? It'd be stupid to bring back anyone who has been a producer on this show the last ten years, as none of them have been stellar EPs. All of them have been dreadful if you ask me. The last time the show was truly perfection was about '06. I'm hoping they take a risk and hire some new blood. Sucks they can't woo Mal Young back to the UK as he's over here on Y&R.

What is bizarre is that out of the three newbie women that Carole emerged as the mainstay out of them. Never would've saw it. I always felt that after her second season she was gonna leave. Especially, after the incident with Aviva questioning her credibility as a writer. Heather and Aviva always added more than Carole did. Carole didn't truly show up to the party till s7 with her feud with Luann.

It would've made sense seeing how popular Nina Arvesen allegedly was with Y&R audiences as Cassandra. Why didn't the show do a better job at using her to draw in more viewers and force Pam Long's hand when it came to her? She was that cliche gorgeous woman with blond heroine that the show was known for having.

I don't think that Jensen's Vicky truly became a Mary Sue type character till about '97 when Bobby Reno popped up on the canvas, and they further made Grant unhinged and slapstick. I do believe that JB's Vicky had the same spunk and independence early on until she married Grant and the hardness Vicky once possessed started to chip away. And Ryan returned to Vicky because he loved her! Y'all are gonna leave Ryan and Vicky's love alone! At that point of the show, I truly wish they would've left Marley off the show if they were gonna bring her back unhinged. I hated that story because it had Donna, Vicky, and Marley doing stupid mess. Donna would not have ran down Vicky b/c she believed she had a part in Michael's accident/death. Knocked her block off? Hell yes. Trying mowing her down with a car? No. Marley now wanting Jake after all those years was disgusting, and regressive for the character. Marley wanted nothing to do with Jake after he raped her, and her locking Vicky in a cage b/c she wanted him was absurd. It also allowed the writers to somewhat make it seem like Jake's sins were erased by Marley's actions b/c she went crazy. I hated that. That story should've went to either Lila or Cindy. Preferably Cindy as she was always nutty. But not Marley. My God! Buddy, just leave Jensen alone!

Y'all are gonna stop coming for my Jensen Buchanan on here! I liked her Vicky.

PoliticusUsa is claiming Mitch McConnell allowed Russia to attack the US to ensure Trump wins...

True. But all this Miami talk has me depressed. I miss them.