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Re Karen: We sure did. Wendy pitching herself as some sort of victim when she and Eddie are old fashioned fraudsters? I shake my head.

That made me laugh out loud because it's true. Given Suzanne's recent experience with colon cancer, perhaps Deidre felt a slight thawing was appropriate, though her shoulder is decidedly turned to keep Suzanne out of her eyeline...

Which episode?

It's been re-airing on Bravo Canada (in hindsight, a good hint it was coming to Peacock), I did a re-watch, and it remains a top tier franchise. Season 1 is a perfect HW season with a flawless story arc.

Tuned in to see Kate on the November 4 episode. I hope Philip asking Sarah not to tell Kate about Xander is laying the groundwork for an actual storyline.

I have been on vacation and finally caught up with the franchises yesterday: LONDON What a powerhouse of a season. This show is top tier in the pantheon of great franchises alongside Melbourne and Vancouver. I will never tire of shouting "BACK TO PADDINGTON!" IYKYK. SLC This is the show that keeps delivering. This yacht trip is an inspired crossover and I can't wait to see the Below Deck episodes where we see this trip from the crew's perspective. I don't have detailed notes because I think the show is working so well, it's fun to watch, there's enough drama that isn't too ugly or deep, and the show keeps moving. POTOMAC Angel is flopping and K is the root cause of this because she's a total downer. Tia is great and read Ashley perfectly without breaking a sweat and always with a smile. Stacey is bulletproof to Ashley and Giselle and it's incredible to see how her years at QVC prepared her to keep talking and be totally unbothered. It's a sight to behold. Enjoying this tropical vacation very much. OC This one is a disappointment. The Amsterdam trip is dull and it's clear this is a cast of co-workers who hate each other and would never spend a moment of their free time together but for this show. They keep saying Shannon is so hilarious and I don't see it. I just see cringe. This has been a good season for Heather, and the moment where she scattered her father's ashes was well done and beautifully shot. Emily's story with her son is uncomfortable to watch. Gina has had a good season where she seems to be more fearless in dealing with Tamra. I enjoy Jen because she's a classic throwback housewife where she has no real job, no prospects, is always a bit of a mess, spends money she doesn't really have, but is, at her core, a nice person. Tamra sucks. Gretchen really sucks.

A pity to have a month without anything for LK.

Thank you for both! I will look into that podcast with Stephanie Beacham. Susan looked beautiful and was so sweet and humble.

I'll try to find a clip later, but I'm thrilled for Susan Walters. So very well deserved.

I was not surprised it was a 'he' referred to given Larsa was saying Yulia likes to hook up with men and had been spotted around Miami with one a few seasons back...

I think she's very pragmatic. A year or so ago she did a podcast where she mentioned she had to ask Sony for more money because she doesn't drive in LA anymore and uses Uber instead. I think she likes to work as she does now and wants to make a good scene, preposterous writing be damned. So I tuned in once you'd signaled the Jill Signal. I'm glad I did. It is always great to see Jess Walton. I agree - I miss the lion's mane but it's styled well. For 79 years old, she looks great (a couple of years ago, in social media post, she said she'd shaved a few years off her birthday when she'd audition, she used to claim 1949 but she's really born in 1946). The scenes with Victor and Jack and Cane were all good. You can see that Eric Braeden likes working with her: his eyes twinkle. Jess Walton and Peter Bergman have always had great chemistry and it remains undimmed. The lighting on that train set is the best in daytime. All of the actors look like prime time stars in that set. It was easy to compare Jess Walton on the Newman Ranch set vs the Train set - she looked glorious in that lighting. Billy Flynn looks like a child! Peter Bergman has 10 years knocked off him in that lighting.

POTOMAC Stacey and Ashley as enemies is great because they're both nuts and hypocrites. Ashley has zero moral high ground to lecture anyone about being honest. Watching any scene with Wendy in it is now extra fascinating, knowing the fraud she *allegedly* (wink) committed in the background had already occurred. Cookie...Cookie, Cookie, Cookie. I love that Karen is looming large over the season and she's got a lady like Cookie in her corner acting as the surrogate between Karen and the audience, whose unafraid to throw some shade.

Unleash the texts, Guerdy! We want to see them all about Yulia!

Adriana exposing Yulia for being a duplicitous philanderer was incredible. The Haitian Mortician?! This show is top tier and Adriana deserves a mojito and central placement in the cast shot. Production should fire Yulia. She's evil and thirsty as hell. I was *stunned* when I saw this and then I got to thinking...Wendy has always been fake as hell and nothing about her lifestyle added up. And then I got to reading...the evidence is breathtaking in how sloppily Wendy and Eddie were in *allegedly* orchestrating this fraud. They thought they'd make 3 reports to insurers and think the insurers don't talk to each other? They thought they could wear jewels they claimed as stolen and nobody would notice? And then I got to judging. What a couple of absolutely idiotic, morally and financially bankrupt, morons. What hypocrites. What posers. What fakes. How tacky and evil. I have never been a fan of Wendy. I now feel vindicated. I bet Gizelle sure does, too. Somewhere, Karen has to be thinking her omission of Wendy in her pre-jail 'thank you list' and Wendy's "That's not my friend!" is now totally poetic. The statement her spokesman gave to Page Six is beyond pretentious: "Dr. Wendy Osefo and her husband, Edward Osefo, are back home safely with their family and in good spirits. They are grateful for the outpouring of concern and support from friends, fans, and colleagues. They look forward to their day in court. At this time, they respectfully ask for privacy as they focus on their family and the legal process ahead." What the f--k? As if she's a humanitarian prisoner of war "back home safely"...as if they weren't arrested at the same time a search warrant was executed where at least 15 allegedly stolen items were found in the house? How preposterous and ego filled. "Dr. Wendy? Listen honey, they'll be calling her Inmate #65982 before you know it.

MIAMI Guerdy self destructed. I'm not sure what she was trying to achieve with how she approached the Julia issue. And I'm firmly on Guerdy's side and despise Julia (more on her in a moment)... It's clear Andy loves Stephanie. Sigh. He always loves the one I dislike. Alexia acquitted herself nicely with the Todd debacle. The ending with Julia and Adriana...WHEWWWWWWW. I cannot stand Julia. She is so tawdry. Andy was wrong about this being a Housewives first though. Ronnie and Mary on RHOV had this storyline 12 years ago!

A pity to see Lauren Koslow sidelined again with only 2 episodes.

Absolutely wild - very enjoyable episode. Lisa is unraveling. Mary's is my favourite - Eat, Drink, and Be Mary.

Has anyone else seen the first 6 minutes of the Potomac premiere? Karen's release from prison is what starts the season, and then it rewinds to Gizelle hosting a coffee time with the other ladies to take about Karen's conviction.

LONDON Another A+ episode. The first half of the episode follow the women in various London locales. Dorinda makes a fabulous return for lunch with her friend of 20+ years, Caroline. They have a gossipy girls lunch and it's clear they are longtime friends who have been there, done that, and bought the T shirt. Karen displayed a quiet strength in discussing her sister's death. The, the ladies all head to Scotland by private jet to stay at a castle hotel that Australian Juliet is a part owner of. It was lighthearted in tone with everyone playing along with the outdoor Highland Games until the dinner when Juliet 'Back to Paddington' Angus tussled with Amanda. So wild and hilarious and petty.

I definitely want Vicki back for next season, the landmark 20th...but I also want Jeana Keough back as she's long been a favourite of mine and she could get under Tamra's skin and was not afraid of her in the slightest. Who could forget Tamra's 'Cyst and Deceased' letter to Jeana? Gretchen is a flop and can go back to 'Liking' transphobic social media posts. It is amazing how without Katie being there for everyone to hate, Gretchen made a total fool of herself in the span of two episodes.

Completely agree. All Y&R has at this point is its cast. There are certainly people who are expensive and not needed (MCE being the most glaring example) but it's certainly not EB, MTS, or PB. That is so ageist and gross of him to say. Jeanne Cooper was kicking ass until the day she died. Look at John Aniston and Joe Mascolo at DAYS, both totally entertaining until their last days on the show. Creativity has nothing to do with the age of a character. The bottom line is you've got a load of hack writers at each of the the current soaps who are tired and recycling old material. I can't imagine the EP that Errol is referring to isn't at BTG. They have so many it would be easy to fire one.

LONDON Another winner of an episode. Do not miss this one folks. Juliet 'Back to Paddington' Angus showed she has not changed a bit when she recounted her confrontation with Amanda to her husband, choosing her words carefully and gilding the lily to cast herself as the victim. Karen is fabulous and I love that she exploded at Panthea when she tried some crap with her. Panthea thinks she's way interesting than she actually is. Her domineering, vain, mother, Shalla June, on the other hand, is a star. Nessie is a trad wife and her home life seems super ideal. Her children are adorable. Australian Juliet's meeting with Amanda was uncomfortable because she is sticking up for Juliet 'Back to Paddington' Angus way too hard. MIAMI It's like Adriana self destructed this episode with that performance at the party. That "I Love My Dog" song was insanity! Although I don't like that Adriana said 'ratchet' to Kiki, I also did not like that Marysol is gunning for her so hard. Meanwhile, Julia's singing is torture. She is tone deaf and so impressed with herself. It's totally cringe. Loved the open house for Alexia and Frankie's Beauty Bar. Alexia is so devoted to Frankie, who is such a delightful soul, I wish them both so well, whatever happens with Todd. I'm curious about how the reunion is going to unfold because the editing of it makes it look explosive and like there are some actions taking place that we cannot come back from. OC Gretchen has fumbled her return so badly and I don't see any point in her returning next season. This recording booth storyline is ridiculous and gross. For the first time in my 19 years of watching this show, I am firmly on Tamra's side when it comes to Gretchen. This whole affair thing is so gross and so outdated and makes Gretchen look 1) stupid (which she is); and 2) bitter (which she is), and 3) fixated on the past (which she is). I also put a lot of blame on Slade who should have declined to be on camera and just stayed out of it. Emily is a big flip flopper and sh*t disturber though. Gretchen called that right.

I'm happy to hear this because Sally should have been promoted to this position a decade ago, at least. She is the one of the few left who knew the real Y&R.

This is about money. Specifically, Sinclair and Nexstar money. Sinclair has always been a conservative leaning company, but it's demands that Kimmel donate to Kirk's family and to Turning Point USA...yeah this is really about Sinclair wanting to purchase Tegna and they need FCC approval to do it. The FCC chair has made comments about Kimmel in the past. He knows he has no authority to oversee the television industry players like Kimmel, so he leaves it to the affiliates to exert pressure as Sinclair and Nexstar are doing currently. Americans better wake up that their first amendment rights are being eroded in the name of corporate greed and corruption at the highest levels.

I cannot wait till you are caught up. Panthea's behaviour at the Buckingham Palace Garden Party is super cringe. Like I was rolling down my couch kind of cringe. Mill Hill...I know...as suburban as it gets. It's really strange how status obsessed she is when she has none of the trappings to justify it. If she was more down to earth she would be so much more likeable, but it's not in her, she's a born snob with none of the street cred to back it up. Juliet 'Back to Paddington' Angus, it turns out, is an ex-friend of Amanda. She self destructs in her first episode without Amanda breaking a sweat. It's a scene to behold because Amanda is so calm and blasé about the whole thing. Karen and Panthea's momentary truce is just that. Nessie has nothing to say of consequence. Aussie Juliet knows she's made the right decisions. You'll see her play paddle with Amanda and she's very easy breezy. Completely agree. I would have preferred an episode resetting and catching up where each of the ladies are currently at. I give Whitney credit too. It was very smart at her. As @Cheap21 said, it totally removes any ammunition the ladies had against her with respect to her business. I'd like to know more about how and why it flopped and which business it was exactly: the beauty company, the Ali Babba jewelry, or something else?