Paul Raven

Wed and Thurs @10 all 3 networks competitive.

Renewing Wayne's contract in 94 would have probably meant a salary boost on top of what may have been a generous contract to start with. Days probably thought they had a supercouple pairing with John/Marlena and no guarantee they could find a suitable match for Roman (if they even wanted to). So easier budget and story wise to drop Wayne.

My Three Sons got a big (short lived) boost from a wedding episode-Robbie/Katie I think. Bill Cosby had a 2 season run on NBC B/w Disney and Bonanza but didn't really score in the ratings.

That episode was from an Australian tape and days was at least 2 years behind at that point, so taped around 85. I wonder if they kept the tape running as Y&R followed Days. Early 80's Y&R is rare. Funny to see it posted as current Days brings back Liz and references that story-Liz/Neil/Marie.

With all the soap hopping that went (goes) on, who are some performers you recall who ended up on different soaps and interacted again? Jane Eliot/Wally Kurth Days Angelica/Justin GH Tracy/Ned Jacquie Courtney/George Reinholt AW Alice/Steve OLTL Pat/Tony Don Hastings/Mark Rydell EON Jack/Walt ATWT Bob/Jeff Denise Alexander/Chris Robinson GH Lesley/Rick AW Mary/Jason Thinking caps on...

Does Stephen Schnetzer set the record for the longest break b/w charcater appearances on any soap? 45 years!

Bill mentored Brad as a writer and encouraged Lauralee's acting aspirations as well as finding a place for Bill Jr on the business side. Brad has 4 kids. I wonder if any are showing an interest in writing? Or the business in general?

in the first half of the season Flip Wilson was dominating the Thurs @8 time period and there was The Waltons languishing @#45 Here's the week ending Oct 1 Wk 3 of the season. Only actual numbers for Top 15 shows (1) ABC Sunday Movie 'Love Story" (ABC) 42.3 One of the all time top movie ratings (2) All in the Family (CBS) 33.2 (3) Marcus Welby, M.D. (ABC) 28.3 (4) NBC Saturday Movie (NBC) 28.1 (5) Bridget Loves Bernie (CBS) 25.5 (6) The FBI (ABC) 24.8 (7) Sanford & Son (NBC) 24.7 (8) Maude (CBS) 24.5 (9) Tuesday Movie of the Week (ABC) 23.8 (10) Ironside (NBC) 23.7 (11) Hawaii Five -O (CBS) 22.5 (12) Gunsmoke (CBS) 22.4 (13) Wednesday Mystery Movie (NBC) 22.3 (14) NBC Monday Night Movie (NBC) 22.2 (15) Here's Lucy (CBS) 22.0 (16) Flip Wilson (NBC) (17) Walt Disney (NBC) (18) Adam 12 (NBC) (19) Cannon (CBS) (20) Rookies (ABC) 21) Partridge Family (ABC) (22)Mary Tyler Moore (CBS) (23) New CBS Friday Movie (CBS) (24) Ghost Story (NBC) (25) Paul Lynde (ABC) (26) Tuesday Movie (CBS) (27) Wednesday Movie of the Week (ABC) (28) Thursday Movie (CBS) (29) Doris Day (CBS) (30) ABC NFL Football (ABC) (31) Mod Squad (ABC) (32) Little People (NBC) (33) Laugh -In (NBC) (34) Medical Center (CBS) (35) Sunday Mystery Movie (NBC) (36) Search (NBC) (37) Owen Marshall (ABC) (38) Room 222 (ABC) (39) Carol Burnett (CBS) (40) Odd Couple (ABC) (41) Emergency (NBC) (42) Brady Bunch (ABC); (43)Bob Newhart (CBS) (44) MASH (CBS) (45) Julie Andrews (ABC) (46) Love, American Style (ABC) (47) Bonanza (NBC) (48) Waltons (CBS) (49) Sonny & Cher (CBS) (50) Dean Martin (NBC) (51)Mission: Impossible (CBS) (52)Temperatures Rising (ABC) (53) Bill Cosby (CBS) (54) Anna & the King (CBS) (55) The Men (ABC) (56) Banyon (NBC) (57) Mannix (CBS) (58) Streets of San Francisco (59)Bold Ones (NBC) (60) Sixth Sense (ABC) (61) Night Gallery (NBC) (62) Alias Smith & Jones (ABC) (63) Dick Van Dyke (CBS) (64) McGovern (Sunday) (CBS) (65) NBC Reports (NBC) ABC won the week 20.5 due to Love Story NBC was 2nd 19.1 and CBS 3rd 18.5 Night by Night Mon 8pm Gunsmoke (CBS) 9pm -11pm Movie (NBC) Tues 8pm Maude (CBS) 8.30 -10pm Movie (ABC) 10pm Marcus Welby (ABC) Wed 8pm Adam 12 (NBC) 8.30-10pm Mystery Movie (NBC) 10pm Cannon (CBS) Thurs 8pm Flip Wilson (NBC) 9pm Ironside (NBC) 10pm Owen Marshall (ABC) Fri 8pm Sanford & Son (NBC) 8.30 Partridge Family (ABC) 9pm Movie (CBS) Sat 8pm All in The Family (CBS) Bridget Loves Bernie (CBS) 9pm Movie (NBC) Sun 7pm Disney (NBC) 8pm The FBI (ABC) 9pm Movie (ABC)

That AI is creepy as fluck. Liz should have arrived at Marlena's at her invite. "When I got your message about Doug, I knew I had to be there. He and Julie came to my shows over the years and Doug never failed to send me a Xmas message." Establish that Marlena and Liz kept in touch sporadically as old friends often do over the years. As for Steven , have Julie chide him for not ever coming back to Salem. "If Doug and I hadn't made the effort to catch up when we were traveling, then you would have no connection to your family." Have Steve be regretful -maybe his own son Spencer did the same to him and after a health scare he has realized how selfish he has been.

I recall that Chandler set had the small staircase in the middle of the room. I'm pretty sure it was then used for Stuart Whyland, the DiMeras, Alex Marshall and Neil/ Liz. Gotta get your money's worth out of that investment.

Y&R had John Abbott and John Silva on concurrently. Reading comments about Liz I get that my 'tenuous' comment was a bit hasty. Doug did give her her first singing break and we assume Liz went on to a successful career. Maybe she should have mentioned that Doug and Julie saw her perform in various venues over the years in their travels. The whole Marie/Liz connection should have been downplayed until they bumped into each other. Then a bonding moment to show that their past rivalry was just that, and that their connection to Doug was more important - a much more satisfying scenario to me. And I would have liked to see Melissa be there as Hope's best friend. Melissa and Sarah and Maggie catching up.

As I've said before, a lot of actors are primarily (and understandably) interested in their own character and airtime. They often don't watch the show or read entire scripts. So their view is colored by that. As long as they are prominent , in stories that challenge them in some way and are treated well by TPTB they are content. Meanwhile, viewers might be screaming in frustration.

Yes that 'logic' in delaying Bert's death was suspect. What they should have done is make her death the starting point for a revamp that acknowledged and respected the past. Surely Don Stewart would have returned for the funeral(he did later on for an anniversary). I wonder if he would have been happy to stay on with recurring/regular guest appearances (I think he was LA based at this point) Bring on Meta for Bert's funeral and have her stay as the new matriach. Again, would Ellen Demming been available. If not maybe another known leading lady (any suggestions?) Lori March? A recast Hope? That character still had a lot of story to tell. And appearances by Peggy, Steve Jackson, Sara Thorpe etc. Maybe use that occasion to bring on Billy Fletcher. They really needed to consolidate, rather than constantly adding new characters.

Well that is Susan's acting style-very 'soap opera' It was nice to see Liz but it was kind of odd that she would return-the connection to Doug was pretty tenuous. Also specifying 1986 as her last year in Salem was unnecessary-they need to keep away from specific dates. She hasn't been in touch with Marlena since then? Why not say that they had reconnected from time to time? Liz's return would have worked better for the 50th. As for Steve climbing in the window? No thanks. And spending all that time on him being untrustworthy/reformed. Just say that Doug and Julie in their many times away from Salem had seen Steve and that had all been worked through. It seemed unnecessary -Steve should have just been there for Julie. Same with the whole Liz/Marie rivalry. Really, women in their 70's and 80's still holding grudges. And Maree Cheatham having to talk about stuff she never acted. They couldn't even use flashbacks to bolster the story. So that was kinda a miss for me.

Don't know why no writers were interested in Steve Olsen. Flip Mark was only in a few episodes before the Olsens left for Europe. From Jason 47 James Carroll Jordan (Steve Olson) 7/13/72-8/16/72 Bill Bell brought him back for a month. Why bother? Stephen Schnetzer (Steve Olson) 6/26/78-12/25/79 Think that was Elizabeth Harrower. I always thought Steve would have been a good addition in the 80's involved with the Di Meras.

From Jason 47 Mike Farrell (Scott Banning) 10/15/68-6/24/70 non contract. In fact all 3 Scotts were non contract roles.

By mid 85 GL compared to 5 years earlier only Ross, Vanessa, Henry (?) and Ed remained remained. Everyone else had been written/killed off-not a good position to be in. The only Bauers were Ed and Rick. Doug Marland had set up the Reardons as the next core family but they too had been whittled away, basically down to Maureen at that point.

@DRW50 Ed Jerrome played Will Dale from 51-53 Jane Rose was Sara from 51-56 according to info at present, although possible that those dates may be a little off.

And Irna used the death of Will Matthews at the debut of Another World, can't think of any other examples of the top of my head.

It's a pity that Days ignored so much history for decades and that entire generations have been ignored/killed off. Sandy's family, Steve Olsen and family,another child for Tom Jr,Melissa's other child and so on. With attention and respect to the Hortons, there would have been a steady flow of new characters to bolster that family.

My Sister Sam was doing OK at Mon @8.30 but CBS threw it away next season on Sat night. With their shortage of sitcoms, it seemed a foolish move. Of course real life tragedy would have probably halted production anyway. And seeing Jack & Mike Tues @10 on ABC reminded me of how many attempts ABC made to find a viable show for that timeslot to follow Moonlighting. Spenser, Our Family Honor, Max Headroom before Thirtysomething established itself there.

Of course-like Leslie I had a memory lapse. The selfless sacrifice story always strikes me as an easy writer cop out eg Brad not telling Les he is going blind, Lorie telling Lance she no longer loves him to give him back Prentiss etc. With a little more thought and imagination the story could have progressed without characters looking like idiots. As for Leslie/Pris that story was a bomb from the get go. There was enough intrigue with the 4L's without sending Leslie off on this tangent.

Yes that is Suzanne, Trish? do you mean Chris? And the blonde is Gloria,Jonas' lady friend.

Interesting that Days never staged another variety show. I'm sure there were hopes from some it would become an annual event.

I think with the Newman Ranch reveal, the wedding and the car accident there was lot to see in that week, but now that things have settled down...