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-- David Lami Friebe (Izaiah) hasn't lessened any bobblehead movements. The truth is it was never a problem. -- I laugh when I see Jamey Giddens listed as breakdown writer, knowing I can count on reading here that the breakdown was terrible 😂 -- The Griddy has been around since 2019. Not exactly some newfangled dance move. -- Good moments between Ted and Shanice, but I can do without even another stuck elevator. Played to death. I don't get any romance vibes between them. -- The hospital Christmas decorations look cheap and chintzy. -- I'm against this show trying to get too into the weeds on Martin's causes and campaign. We all know what we're dealing with in real life, and we know they're NEVER going to address the elephant in the room -- the lying racist felon and pedophile. I just don't think it works to pretend they're feeding us reality in any way, not when we just ended a 2-month shutdown. Vernon suggesting TikTok videos doesn't cut it. -- I've grown to really like June, but I don't enjoy scenes written as lectures. The stuff she said about hospitals and the unhoused was awfully pedantic. -- Was June really so busy that Samantha needed to help her? They had her carrying 3 plates at once but the place was almost empty of customers. Regardless, would any restaurant be OK with that? -- Why Vanessa would want Golden Corral Casino Mobster Joey when she can have Diego is beyond me. -- If this is part of a Joey takedown plan by Vanessa, writers need to look at everything they're doing, because I'm not sure all or any of the steps she's taking make sense. If and when takedown day comes, everything happening before then should be a part of the plan.

As bad as the business stuff is on Y&R, it's just as bad on BOLD. Eric has to ask to be on the design team? Brooke is worried about the deadlines and pressure while Ridge runs around acting busy because the phone rings? Only recently we had a Ridge vs Eric battle at Forrester. We watched Eric designing (really lame) gowns in his living room, preparing for battle against Ridge. Why are we getting this nonsense again?

Completely agree about the flashback. I don't think it added a thing to the Dani and Bill story. In addition, I don't get the casting for Dani. That actress looked entirely too light-skinned.

-- Today's episode was good, not great. -- I'm glad that Andre is getting ticked at Bill's presence in Dani's life. I hope he doesn't put up with stuff like this marshmallow bullsh_it. -- That corner coffee area (at some mall? Huh?) is not working. -- Who directed the extras to act extra? Those two taking selfies and talking animatedly in the Hayley and Randy scenes were ridiculous. -- Why was Andre even in that area to run into Hayley? -- And why would Naomi and Chelsea leave the country club and go to that coffee area? Am I nitpicking? So sue me.

A bigger problem than the Forrester offices is all this time spent on boring, vanilla Dylan and her "Oh, I'm so sorry I killed your daughter Luna."

Same. I'm not holding my breath on Tomas.

Many of us know exactly what you mean. Maybe you should ask him what he thinks of the breakdowns 😂

I agree about moving away from food destruction, although I'd rather the curse be broken at this point.

-- The Quartermaine Thanksgiving was a letdown to me. For one thing, there wasn't all that much food on that table. I wouldn't exactly call it a feast. -- And then boxing it up to take to the hospital? Seriously? All those people to deliver that small turkey and a few side dishes. Talk about the rich deciding "Let them eat cake." -- Outback should have destroyed that meal. -- Tracy did save the day with the pizza, though.

-- Blaming Derek for that argument with Ashley in front of the nurses' station is insane. She had no reason -- none -- for telling him that she called Andre the night they broke up to ask if he might still want her. I mean, this girl is TRASH. -- And why is Ashley arguing while she's at work? This was an extended argument, not a one-liner. I'm glad Derek ripped her a new one. -- It's laughable that Vanessa thinks she's anything more than or better than a pimp. Trying to put a classy spin on prostitution is something else. I guess she isn't worried about her kids finding out that she's a whore. -- Vernon is a better man than I am. Bill is lucky Vernon speaks to him, let alone tells him how sad he is about all that's gone down. -- That final shot of Joey with the check was nothing special.

-- Not believable that those Potomac ladies (who are awful actors) wouldn't realize Vanessa was operating an escort service from the jump of their conversation. I guess the cringe acting made it fun. -- Vanessa continues to be a complete hoe. -- I have a hard time believing any of Bill's regrets about his married life with Dani. Haven't we been told he cheated on her constantly?

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I did watch the Thanksgiving episode with Danny and Cricket's first marriage. I thought it was OK, but hardly a classic. Y&R is so awful these days that I think we put on three pairs of rose-colored glasses when talking about the past.

The Hernandez family stuff didn't really work for me, especially the Leo and Javi engagement. I just don't care about those two at all, and didn't find any of it emotional. And they had Javi say "What's happening here?" Really? As if it wasn't obvious when Leo got on his knee an pulled out a ring. Of course, they were all shoved into that TINY kitchen. We got no dining room meal, but just "What a feast!" comments while that TINY kitchen looked like no cooking had been done in it. As an aside, I admit I watched JPL during the engagement scene. Many of us have wondered about his sexuality over the years, and not that it matters at all, but I don't think he's straight. During those scenes, he had zero reaction -- not emotional, not smiling, not happy for them, not anything. It was kind of weird.

Paul did send a message of congratulations.

-- Why is Naomi on her phone during Thanksgiving dinner? As if I don't already have enough reasons to dislike her. -- So we get none of the beats played with Madison and her mother? Just Chelsea supposedly getting them all together for Thanksgiving? This doesn't work, and I wonder if Madison is long for this show. -- That table at Orphey Gene's for Ted, Eva, and Leslie is REALLY small😂 -- For me, the emotional highlight of the show was to see June with her kids, Smitty, and Martin. I'm really glad they've avoided the cliche storylines -- making her difficult, having her be a problem, etc. -- Dani overcooking the turkey -- apparently by HOURS -- was cliche to me. -- Vernon's speech at the end was very nice, and Clifton Davis has the gravitas and presence to pull it off. -- Still, it's hard to believe Anita can't do a better job of rounding up family to share a holiday meal. I mean, it was a pretty lousy showing. -- It was nice to see so many characters in this episode, though, in so many venues. -- Vanessa wants Joey to open a restaurant. Doesn't his casino have one, or more than one. Oh, that's right, it's the Golden Corral Casino.

-- Why does this show think we care ANYTHING about Dylan? An episode wasted on who ran Luna over -- with another bland, boring, vanilla "actress." -- In times like these, I find the Logan sisters absolutely insufferable. And I mean all of them.

I laughed when I saw the HUGE container of Cascade on Dani's counter. Doesn't everyone keep theirs on display? The laughs got louder when we actually got a full-blown Cascade commercial with both Dani and Andre name-checking the product and then Andre loading the gel-pac into the dishwasher -- an appliance he apparently has never seen before 😂

All true. It was like two standalone episodes -- meaningless to any future story. The wedding planner did NOTHING. I mean, this is writing that doesn't even try. All we got was Christine running back and forth to her room while her guests milled around at the most boring wedding reception ever. I was also waiting for even one GCAC guest to walk by. We got nothing. All this build up -- and the show did build up this wedding -- and then pfffft.

I think it is. It's DAYS bad regarding the budget, and the speeches were no better.

-- Esther remarked that the GCAC looked so beautiful for the wedding. To me, it just looked like they pushed all the tables and furniture out off the way and added a bunch of floral arrangements. -- How great to open the episode with a recap of who wasn't there and why. -- This cheap ass show couldn't even pay flaming wedding planner Pietro for more than one episode. At least we would have had some laughs.

-- I had to 😂🤣😂 when Marlena's blood pressure spiked and her heart numbers were off. Kayla ran out of the room...I mean, she RAN out of the room...to talk to the cardiologist. I was HOWLING! -- Then she comes back in and says "You need a temporary pacemaker." HOWLING AGAIN 😂🤣 -- Javi and Leo declaring their deep love to each other means trouble is around the corner. What an anvil. -- Brady tells Rachel she's not a bad person. Dude, yes, she is. Time to send that girl away to a sanitarium. -- This show is still using summer time establishing shots all over the place. Talk about lazy.

Exactly right about that. There's one MAJOR scandal after another with these people, but THIS is the one requiring crisis intervention by public relations? Embarrassing.

I think it's Remy, too. Like Lisa Yamada, Christian Weissman won an Emmy -- so of course they'll turn him into a complete psycho who has to be written off. Gay storyline? We all know Brad Bell doesn't give a rat's ass about that.

-- The writing today was YIKES. -- While most of us want Tomas gone, Bill talks to him about becoming a partner. I guess we're stuck with him. -- The lines Bill fed Tomas about dating and his relationship with Kat were so hypocritical they were cringeworthy. I really don't like to see Bill so lacking in self-awareness. -- It's nuts that Ted is pushing Kat to share Thanksgiving with Eva. Talk about rushing things. And what does that even mean? Is he cooking dinner? Or just getting a table at the country club? -- Nicole was no better. In fact, she was worse. I hate it that she didn't side with Kat and agree it was all moving too fast. She's already pushing the sister thing and it makes no effing sense. -- Only Dani made sense. -- Wealthy Leslie is having Thanksgiving dinner at ORPHEY GENE'S??? What??? -- And Ted said "It's on me" regarding Thanksgiving dinner with Eva and Leslie AT ORPHEY GENE'S??? -- Ted acted a fool when he saw Eva with Izaiah. The overbearing father? Really? From this guy who pretty much ignores his other two kids? -- All this fury from Elon about Izaiah being a problem and not caring about his mother does not work. Not only haven't we been given anything but "He was arrested when he was younger," but David Lami Friebe simply DOES NOT give bad boy in ANY way. -- That cafeteria-like setting in the corner is a choice.