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Does anyone know the 2 episode dates that were submitted?

Well, let's ask Robert Soderberg and Edith Sommer, GL head writers at the time! I have their 6 month story projection. I'll have to scan into PDF and offer to this community by email but for now here are the relevant pages from their (second draft) story projection that reference Bert/Bill. In sum, (although any contract or budget reasons for killing Bill are not discussed) the story is framed as a backdrop to Ed/Mike story. Here are the first two pages of the four discussing this story. Here are the other 2 pages.

LOL. Thanks Michelle Val Jean

IMO she's destined for BTG.

Thanks. I've been trying to piece together the writers from late 60s to cancellation. Here's what I have (based on the 2020 French Fan post and my own memory and research. Roy Winsor Agnes Nixon Frank and Doris Hursley 1957-1963? Julian Funt/David Lesan 1963?-1968 Leonard Kanter/Doris Frankel (Summer 1970 ?) Lou Scofield head writer/Bertram Berman/Story Consultant (November 1970 ?) Ralph Ellis & Eugenie Hunt (1971 – December 1973) Theodore Apstein (January 1974 – May 1974) Gabrielle Upton (May 1974 – November 1974) Ann Marcus (October 1974 - April 1975) Peggy O’Shea (April 1975 – November 1976) Irving & Tex Elman (November 1976 – June 1977) Robert J. Shaw (Summer 1977 - _____ Corringtons (____ 1978 to May 1980) Linda Grover/John Porterfield (May 1980 to mid July 1980) Henry Slesar _____________ Gabrielle Upton (____ to ______ 1981) Harding Lemay Don Chastain (Summer 1981 writers' strike - _______) Ellis/Hunt/Cherrill (Early 82-Dec 82) David Cherrill (Dec 82 - May 83) Gary Tomlin (May 83 to Jan 84? ) Jeanne Glynn (Jan 84? to March 85) (briefly with Madelyn David then Carolyn Franz) Paul Mayer/Stephanie Braxton (March to August 1985) Gary Tomlin/Michelle Lisanti (August 85-May86) Pam Long/Addie Walsh (May to Dec 86) IF anyone can fill in the rest of the dates, that would be great. Looks like the Corringtons had the longest tenure from their hire date to cancellation. That's just terrible.

Absolutely. One of Henry's top three best EON plots: Pamela (Irene Dailey ) was married to Nicole's 1st husband Duane who was still in love w/Nicole and pursued her. So Pamela hated Nicole. At the same time, Stephanie and her catatonic daughter came to town. S hated N because Ben Travis (as head of the syndicate ) was responsible for the deaths of Stephanie's husband and another child! Nicole and Stephanie both worked at McGrath's Dress shop. N started getting phone calls from a man who recited lines from Shakespeare's plays relating to death. We would see a man in a hat and trench coat call N from a phone booth to spook her with these Death quotes. (one was from Othello; right before he kills his wife: he says "Put out the light, then put out the light!" Well it wasn't a man making those calls! It was Stephanie with a stocking over her face playing a tape of a man reading the Shakespeare quotes! And at one point, she actually shot Nicole in the arm before we knew it was Stephanie doing this stuff. Nicole found out and went to confront S at the dress shop. When she entered, Stephanie had been stabbed in the back! Crazy Debbie was already there and screamed: pull it out! So N got her fingerprints on the knife, and S was already dead! During the trial, Adam put Deb on the stand even though she couldn't remember what she saw that night. All of a sudden, she got her memory back, stood up on the stand, pointed to Pamela and said: she's the one who killed my mother!!! Pamela had gone to the Dress shopintending to kill N, but accidentally killed Stephanie! She admitted everything and said her goal was to get rid of Nicole.

Here's a link to a discussion about the various adult Patti actresses https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/soapworldclassicsoaps/episodes-8876-8878-t5896.html

If I were Jackson I'd quit. His story has been so lame.

Wow. Thanks. I think the Hursleys were writing at this time....?

Watching these and I remember watching live when they aired. Tomlin/Whitesell had a firm hand from the beginning and the show looked good. Writing was solid until they decided to do the flood which was totally unnecessary waste. Then, P&G was so wowed with Whitesell they moved him over to AW and fired Tomlin (after six months) to give Pam Long an assignment before she was ready to return to GL (after her divorce and birth of second child I believe). Of course, Whitesell quit AW after two years to go to Hollywood. It always pissed me off that they gave him a chance to EP two shows at age 33 or so and overlooked women like Hope Harmel Smith, Susan Dansby, Mary Bonner, Charlotte Weil (OLTL) and Leslie Kwartin. If they had kept Tomlin/Whitesell through to the end of SFT it would have gone out with more dignity. Long's SFT was uninspired.

Here's Victor Miller's soap job history based on YouTube closing credits etc...Fascinating OLTL: 82-June 84 (hired by Sam Hall/fired by Paul Rauch/Corringtons) 2 years AMC: 84-86 (Aug 84 to Aug 86 (hired by Wisner Washam) 2 years GL: Dec 86 to August 87 (hired by Munisteri/worked for Anderson/Manetta/fired by Long) 9 mo AMC 87-89 Fall 87 to Nov 89 (hired by Lorraine Broderick/fired by Agnes Nixon) 2 years AW: Feb 90 to Aug 95 (hired by Swajeski/fired by Phelps/King/Carlson) 5 years/8mo GL: Sept 95 to March 97 (hired by McTavish/fired by Rauch/Brown/Estensen) 20 months AMC: August 97-August 2001 (hired by Lorraine Broderick/quit to join McTavish at GH) 4yrs GH: Fall 2001 to April 2002 (hired by McTavish/fired by Phelps/Guza/Pratt) 6mo

Not sure if this has ever been posted but here's longtime AMC writer, Victor Miller's career timeline in which he explains each of his moves between and among the soaps. New info for me: Mary Munisteri hired him at GL but she was fired before he got there. He makes a funny comment about Sheri Anderson/Joe Manetta. Other cool writing drama tidbits in the Q&A as well. https://victormiller.com/autobiography.php

The Corringtons were writing in 79 when these scenes with Mignon aired. It's vintage Louisiana Corringtons.

Cathy Abbi may have had stinky feet but she made the show look great and hired a superb head writer. The new opening, sets and most casting under Abbi were great. But there was much damage from Holloway and Upton head writing periods.

I'm curious that (although most of these episodes don't have full closing credits, there's only been one (or two) where Racina/Schibi/Bacos listed as script writers. All other long credit crawls show Elizabeth Levin as sole script writer. BTW: Margaret Schibi is veteran script writer Peggy Schibi although IMDB lists them as two separate writers. It's hard to get through these episodes. I think the Corringtons left the show in a mess. I give Grover/Porterfield credit for focusing on Liza with the child story and Stephanie/Wendy with long long Brian/Spencer. But it's hard to get through the other stuff. Never liked Cissy (or the actress as Kim Brady on Days). Never liked Lee Sentell character either.

Watching these 1977 episodes that were recently posted, I noticed that Nancy Pinkerton seems to read her entire scenes from the cue cards. This is particularly noticeable in the March episode I believe where she has a few scenes with the Matt character. I wonder if she was one of those who never learned her lines.

Courtney Simon was hired in 1980 by Ralph Ellis and Eugenie Hunt to write scripts for The Doctors. Courtney wrote under the alias Kate Brooks. She may have written under another alias for another show before that. Not sure. Millee Taggart also wrote scripts for Ellis/Hunt under the alias Heather Matthews.

Cathy LePard's first GH script was June 21, 2023. Dan O'Connor joined Days last June as a script writer, not a break down writer. Where has it been reported that Dan moved over to BTG?

Wow. Wonderful. The Hursleys, GH creators, remained the head writers until 1973 before their daughter and son in law, the Dobsons, took over for two years. The Hursleys back story is here in this fascinating article. https://michigantoday.umich.edu/2013/07/29/a8670/

This was the year it all really started to fall apart. Caso kept Packer/Backus through Doug's death then added Garin Wolf. He did drop Backus and added Richard Culliton and Garin Wolf as Baker's co heads. Then Caso left in June and Valente started to dismantle the show. He fired Garin Wolf and left Culliton and Packer write the show from July through Dec. Then he fired Packer and Collation was sole head writer until late February 96 when two of the worst writers to hit daytime were hired for 11 months (Black and Stern). Of course, Valente didn't last either. The show never recovered IMO.

So sad to see cuties Paul Joynt (Brian 1) and Tim Murphy (Spenser) in those early scenes knowing they both died of AIDS related complications. Their shirtless night camping scene in the recently posted May episode is full of erotic subtext. Of course, they missed an opportunity to wow the audience by having one of them have a crush on the other. Grover's decision to have Brian go into a Young and the Restless fantasy about Stephanie when he meets her for the first time is a total gay hoot. During the camping scene he has the cutest queer boy/mother dream/nightmare. These few Grover shows are radically different that the January Corrington episodes. Clearly, Grover/Porterfield were green and didn't have command of things. Dialog was uneven at best. No wonder they didn't last long. Was it Bunim who hired Grover or had she left as well to take over ATWT and was it Fred Bartholemew as producer?

Linda Grover wrote TD from April 78 to end of February 79. In the episodes I've seen she brought more psychology and character to the show and I believe one or more of her script writers may have been (or became) therapists. I believe Elizabeth Levin and David Cherrill wrote scripts during her less than one year tenure. Levin would become HW after Linda (twice) with David writing scripts. He may have been co head for Levin's first stint. John Porterfield spend some of 1992 on Norma Monty's disastrous GH writing staff. I don't think Grover did any more soaps after SFT.

So far he's posted four consecutive episodes from end of May and first of June 1980. haven't watched them yet.

Agree. Watching the new SFT episodes that were just posted (end of Jan 1980) some scenes are outstanding especially Stephanie's dialog with Martin, but the Cissy/Beau stuff is not good. Most of the vets had nothing substantial to do. May 1980 episodes have also just been posted but with no credit crawl at the end. Does anyone know if the Corringtons were still HW or had they left and who replaced them?

Jean moved over to ATWT in Jan 1980 with the Dobsons (as did the Whites and Nancy Ford). ATWT July 1980 credits. Marland's initial writing team was Robert Dwyer and Nancy Franklin both of whom had been his script writers at GH and The Doctors (Mulcahey and Lemay also came in as script writers for Marland at some point). (he