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I keep reading the dailies and I'm really confused about Li and Jack's marriage. Li talks about how much she resented Jack because she believed he slept with Poppy 20+ years ago. Was Li being passive-aggressive during those 20+ years? It sure seemed like Li was fine with Jack until the truth about Finn's real parents came to light. Are Jack and Li still legally married? Of course, none of this makes sense because the entire storyline was made up when Poppy came to town. While the whole story is gross, at least, it's interesting and totally fits within B&B's usual fare. Finn has been treated as if he's a Ken doll with absolutely no shades of gray or flaws. It's a huge disservice to the actor and character. Finn barely flinched when it was revealed that Steffy slept with $B when she was married to Liam. C'mon! I think this will make the Sinn a far better couple in the long run. I do feel badly for RP because she's actually made Poppy interesting. Even though she's the same age as TN, she's going to get a lot of really hateful comments. Side note: I can't wait for Liam's reaction when he hears the truth about Lunacy's dad. His mind may explode!

KM also temporarily played Amanda on Y&R in 2021 when MM was recouping from surgery. I just remember KM talked about how much she loves the soap world + fans. She'll be great for PR and interviews because she's very down-to-earth, open, and sweet.

Fun fact: both RP and TN were born in 1986. It's not like Poppy was older and served as some sort of mother substitute. It takes some, but not all, of the ick out of the scenario. Wouldn't be shocked if Poppy was adopted and not bio-related to Li at all. It also makes sense why Finn didn't even comment about Steffy sleeping with her father-in-law. @Maxim Wait until the reveal that Liam and Brooke have been secretly comforting each other aka Eric/Quinn! They really should've made Liam a villain by now.

It's too bad Dynasty(2017) was canceled before BTG was greenlit. Somehow those sets would've worked perfectly for this concept! I'd rather have a show more campy, scandalous, and fun than heavy, dull, and dreary. If the characters, actors and stories are good, the lighting/sets simply won't matter. A new soap is a risky investment. Better to focus on good writers and actors than sets/lighting. When the show is a hit, CBS will invest more. I'm excited! This KM stan is thrilled to see her featured so prominently! TT is a legend. The promo has 2K views on YT. Hopefully it's getting better exposure on bigger socials like TikTok and X. I do hope they tighten the production window from filming 3+ months in advance. Anyone know how that's going to work?

At least we know CZ will be back someday. The 'nine lives' comment, sleeping pills and no way Claire gets saddled with premeditated murder. CG delivers when given an opportunity. Let's hope there's far more drama in Mariah's world. If only Tessa would comfort Daniel... Billy's 180 is a fakeout. Love the new set - so many details, the hallway, etc. It's classic. I've noticed how Y&R has been *introducing* characters during the back half of the show lately. Friday was Sally + Diane. Overall the show's production values and scene depth make it far more enjoyable. It's little things - like when the couple behind Jack leaving and a few moments later a waiter cleans the table, the waitstaff at Society watching Tessiah, etc. Adding those touches, gives the scenes a different energy instead of watching two isolated characters talking.

I suppose the new route will be to make Poppy the ultimate evil person her shrill sister has always claimed. After the Finn reveal, we'll find out Poppy drugged Lunacy to commit the murders. Poppy so desperately wanted $B that she *minted* Lunacy to get rid of Tom. Hollis ended up as collateral damage. Of course, Poppy stocked the fridge with lots of tainted bottled water to cover the period when she was in jail and Lunacy built that cage for Steffy. It's not like logic or timelines really matter on B&B.

CBS needs to push streaming hard. That's where the bulk of potential viewers can be found. Unless I was visiting my mom, I haven't seen a soap on linear TV/DVR since 2016. In 2023, Deadline reported the average age for the 3 linear soaps was almost 70 y.o! I do believe Y&R has a solid If CBS is really committed to BTG building a following, I hope CBS.com unlocks more than the 5 most recent episodes. Not sure what Paramount+ does, but CBS should keep those episodes free at least for the first couple of months. I'm not exactly hopeful since Paramount refuses to pay the license fee for even the most recent seasons of Y&R/B&B.

Ha! I didn't say that. But character names is not one of the many fundamental issues soaps have been struggling with for the past 15 years! Y&R has mostly remained watchable because it has been featuring vets in front burner s/l. B&B has been in a creative nadir since the misguided Sheila shooting Finn/Steffy. Every glimpse of watch-ability pretty much gets negated quickly.

Sally was named for her Aunt Sally Spectra, a B&B character Bill Sr. created in 1989. Billy was born to Jill in 1993. Also created by Bill Sr. I supposed the *creative lull* started with Bill Sr. 35 years ago!

If it's Ridge, they'll rewrite it so that Lunacy was *fantasizing* about RJ, but nothing ever happened. What a mess! Re: FC takeover. The story would be far more interesting if RJ, Rick, Thomas, and, even Bridget were on canvas. RJ truly torn between parents. Rick by Brooke's side, but also angling to swipe the company from Carter for himself! Thomas as HFTF, but is he really a spy and still in love with Hope? Bridget angry at her sister for stealing her father's company. There's no way Bridget would condone Hope stealing Eric's company. Bridget could finally reveal those repressed feelings about Brooke/Deacon. These four characters are canvas-ready with actors the fans know and mostly like. But what do I know?

The Claire/Jordan scenes actually caught my attention. This Claire is so much more interesting than 'Maria' from the Sound of Music. CZ is much better when she's allowed to show vulnerability. Because Jordan and Ian are extreme, the CZ/RW scenes almost have to be OTT. Victoria shaking in her white boots trying to rationalize Claire's ability to flip in such a cold, calculated and lethal way. Meanwhile, Nikki's laissez faire attitude about the whole thing is a bit funny. It's good they kept TGVN out of this for now.

That's the only logical route left. Jack didn't want blood drawn because it would show a familial tie to Lunacy's father. Jack hasn't been on enough to mine any real story. That's a real shame. Jack could've been involved with Taylee or Brooke. Finn does opens up a lot of drama on a lot of fronts. All other potentials are eliminated: - Ridge/Thorne/Nick: no because of RJ via Stephanie/Massimo; Eric: too gross - $B has taken separate tests; Liam -lol - Carter/Justin: obviously no; - Deacon: could've been plausible, but they missed the boat on establishing anything with Poppy months ago.

Definitely being undone. It'll be something like she was being drugged - like GHB - so she was controlled by some random person who'll suddenly appear on the screen. Probably one of Poppy's *random* men who became obsessed with Luna or whatever. Look at how they used Lunacy's actions to undo the ill-conceived Zende mess despite what they showed on air for weeks. Just like Sheila illogically shooting Steffy + Finn over spiked champagne, so many of these stories should've never gone past the 'what if' stage. B&B desperately needs manipulators not murderers to move the story forward.

HA! It's insane. You've got KKL, JMW, HT, AN, KB, SK and DD. Those 7 actors/characters can anchor endless intriguing long-running stories. I can't understand why B&B keeps doing the throw it against the wall stuff: if it stick, it's around for 3 months max; if it doesn't it's wiped out in a month. Ridiculous for a 38-year old show that has plenty of history to mine + fashion/beauty + LA as a backdrop.

Unless Finn is Lunacy's father, how does another off-canvas dad further any story? Especially since Li + Poppy are basically dayplayers. If DD has a contract minimum, certainly he can be put to far better use. He has two grandkids in LA, but would rather spend his time with Lunacy. I'm so glad I went to back to recaps when Remy locked Electra in his apt. This is pure drivel.

The *coup* is exactly the type of story that B&B could mine for months or years. - Brooke as CEO reclaims her righteous place in FC and the industry as FC thrives. - Eric + the Marone spawn decide to create a rival fashion house. Clarke or Sally join them. - Rick returns to support Brooke and protect his legacy as a Forrester, but Eric dangles a different offer. - Thomas returns from Paris and must choose to whether to work for HFTF or FC2. - Zende and recast RJ also have conflicts and choices. Same with Ivy and Electra. - $B wakes up from whatever mints Poppy has been secretly feeding him and decides he wants to play puppetmaster with the fashionistas. Am I the only one seeing this as a rare opportunity to reboot B&B in an exciting way? Reverting to pre-coop would be a dead-end.

YES! Thank you for posting the clip since I'm back to reading recaps. KKL played that perfectly. Oh, and props to TK - his facial expressions and sneer - gave KKL exactly the right cues for the caress/slap. If only Bridge could be put six feet into the ground.

I wonder if it'll be a national pre-emption on Jan 9 for President Carter's National Funeral Service. I seem to recall it's all-day network coverage for past presidents.

TEB and SW both looked amazing in the NYE episodes. Why do I have a feeling we're going to see that foursome swap? Loved the camera sweep as the foursome was leaving going right to Daniel, Danny + Cricket. CG can still deliver when given a chance. It was a good choice to have her in Society looking cautiously looking out at Nick/Ian. It allowed us to see how terrified Mariah is of Ian without her being hysterical.

Luna is spending the 'rest of her sentence' under house arrest at $B's mansion? Did I miss the part where Luna plead guilty and was sentenced? I know LA is extremely lax when it comes to justice for victims, but surely two premeditated murders and a kidnapping would warrant a decades-long term. And, I'm back to reading recaps first before I decide to return to watching.

Liam: "a front-burner story but one that’s completely different for him.” Deacon/Sheila: 'a new story ... it’s going to be something completely different for them.” Answer: Throuple. You're welcome.

Give CM a break. He's been given a lot of material - most of it blah - and airtime in a short period of time. I think he's doing a great job. Plus, you know every time HT looks at him, she's flashing back to Y&R! At least we know why RJ has been missing. And I agree with @dragonflies they should've cast Remy as RJ - he even looks like he could be Ridge's son. B&B definitely was more interesting when suspense was added this summer with Lunacy, but I don't get why they'd stack Lunacy whining with the Remy climax. Why not spread these stories out?

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. We know Jordan is trying to 'reclaim' Claire. Cole will make the ultimate sacrifice to save her. I hope I'm wrong because JEP and AH are a good match. It's the first time since JT that I've enjoyed a Victoria pairing.

The Newman and Abbott household being dressed up for Christmas felt like classic Y&R. Strangely, the set the caught my eye - the Society entrance - it used to look like a dark alley, but the lighting, the snow, etc. make it interesting. Anyone else feels like there's too much love for Cole? Victor accepts him with Victoria, he takes Claire out for her first ride, Victor offers him a job(!). IDK - my soap instincts are kicking in. Who would've thought that SW return was actually the missing piece to unifying the Abbott family in terms of storylines. Jack as a patriarch trying to fill the John role just didn't work until Diane returned. There's enough history and tension with Ashley, Traci and Kyle to make the Abbott house interesting again. Almost like when John/Jill were in that role.

I don't get the acceleration of the Remy reveal. Why has Will been the one pushing for answers and not Ivy? That's completely illogical. Ivy is not only her aunt, but also her boss. Ivy's just been like OK Electra got fired. Um, I thought Ivy needed a skilled assistant to successfully launch the jewelry line. So Ivy's lost her assistant and is completely blase about it? Stupid! Remy is a goner after he snapped back at presumably Deacon about never cleaning the grill again. Why bring him on, get him at job/apt at Ill Pizza Shack only to write him off. This is weird. Meanwhile, we have to listen to Luna whine that she's being mistreated in prison. Honey, ask Tom, Hollis and Steffy how they feel. Watch Finn/Steffy welcome Luna back to the family, while Sheila is a forever pariah. Maybe Sheila will save Electra. Perhaps, Eric will thank her as Steffy rolls her eyes. One last thing: the French singer asks for Brooke. Instead of saying Brooke, as CEO is taking meetings with anybody, the response is Brooke is at *home* taking care of things. WTH? So unbelievably bad writing. The frustrating part is that all of the above stuff could be somewhat compelling with a few tweaks in the writing.