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Just discovered this article about Melinda Cordell. Has this been posted before? Has more been learned since this was published? https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/article94671242.html

Well maybe the phonecall that Anita declined to answer was from an Articulette who received that phonecall from Naomi who called about June . . . and eventually realized that Naomi is Anita's granddaughter?

Since BTG first started, I have sometimes thought of the fictional Duprees as a modern Black version of the 1950s and 1960s time period of the real-life Kennedy political family. But the Duprees are more interesting to me now. I remember all this Kennedy story, as I am elderly, but I'll summarize for any youngsters here: Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. was wealthy and powerful with many political positions, and his wife Rose was the daughter of the Mayor of Boston; and all their progeny had influential careers and married influential people. And of course, their sons JFK Sr., RFK Sr., and Ted were all famous politicians, their daughter Eunice founded the Special Olympics, and their daughter Jean was an Ambassador. Joseph P. Sr. was notorious for throwing around his power and influence back in the 1940s, in order to get JFK started in his career in Congress. Being in Congress later led to JFK being able to run for the Senate and later the Presidency. Joseph Sr. was a Democrat in name, but conservative in philosophy, and not a nice person, so in that way quite different from Vernon Dupree. I wonder what Vernon's father was like? They have Vernon's father's portrait on a wall on one of the sets but I don't know more than that he founded Fairmont Crest. Okay to get back on point: The Kennedys were considered golden in the 1950s and 1960s. After President John Kennedy was assassinated, his brother Senator Robert Sr. ran for President several years later, but was assassinated on the campaign trail. Then Senator Ted was expected by the family to run for President but... Then there was Senator Ted Kennedy and the Chappaquiddick incident that happened in 1969. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident After a party, Ted Kennedy was supposedly driving a woman to her hotel, the car went off a bridge into the water, and he escaped but she didn't. He said that he dove in to try to rescue her but couldn't. He didn't notify the police until the next morning. She was later found dead in the car. There was lots of confusion about what really happened, with various cousins trying to "fix" the situation before he went to the police. This was a few months before his dad Joseph Sr. died of old age, so the cousins did the fixing. Huge thing in the news back then! Ted had to drop out of the race for President. He managed to keep his Senate seat. He ran for President again years later but wasn't nominated. It ended up working out because Ted remained working as a Senator for many years doing positive things. I had wondered from watching BTG months ago if "Martin's secret" would be his Chappaquiddick. In some ways it is, in that it has (for now) delayed his plans to run for President. But this is very different. Ted Kennedy's behavior was odd. Did he really try to rescue her? Why did he drive off the bridge? He seems at fault for this but we'll never really know what happened that night in Chappaquiddick. Certainly his negligence led to her death. And he spent too much time dealing with friends/cousins/lawyers/fixers before going to the police. Martin did nothing wrong. Other than losing control and beating with the tire iron too long. But Martin wasn't drunk or partying or in questionable company. He was defending his grandfather from horrible men who had a gun. But Martin let his grandfather call Bill and Marcel to "fix" the situation and keep it quiet. Ted Kennedy ended up giving a statement on TV. I wonder if Martin will eventually do the same.

off-topic from BTG specifically, but posting because of MVJ. https://x.com/MicheleValJean/status/1945309541429862843

https://x.com/MicheleValJean/status/1945309541429862843

Oh *that* twist. Yeah I don't know if there's anything unforeseen coming.

I'm not convinced that there needs to be a twist. To me, the story stands on its own. So the end of the episode is Vernon telling Anita that Martin is drowning. But actually I think that Martin is finally taking charge of his life. I'm curious to see how much of this is revealed to Jacob and how he'll react -- and if he learns of his father's involvement.

I like it when Vanessa is in charge of Joey. I hated that he threatened her and she kissed him anyhow.

The flashback showed both bad guys. Kenny-before-plastic-surgery must be the one without the hat, because he's the one who said "Let's see what color's your money."

I see now that in the tvinsider article they did this: The first and third pics were from Getty Images. The second pic is from the second Disney/ABC photographer Christine Bartolucci. Still, the article headline seemed a bit misleading. Now I see that there is a little label atop the second picture: "Exclusive first look at Kelly Thiebaud back on GH this week below!" And they meant "below this little label".

Happened to me and others on another thread. It was a SON glitch for a few minutes

@Errol @Toups some sort of glitch, I tried posting and it kept freezing and the post didn't go through, so I tried again, etc. never worked. Then a little while later, all my attempts posted at once. I see that happened upthread to other posters, too.

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One of the guys (Kenny or his brother) had a gun. screengrab

This is zooming in on the picture of Britt wearing hospital garb with Sonny, with her ID showing either "Chief of Staff" or "Co-Chief of Staff" (I can't quite read it). This makes me think that it might be an old photo because I doubt the hospital would restore her to that position so soon after returning "from the dead"

I have no idea what's going to happen next (and I'm glad that I don't know). But my speculation is that Martin will eventually have that press conference -- at some point.

Re: daily spoilers posted above for Thurs. July 17 and Fri. July 18 Jacob still part of this - good. Oooh does Vanessa tell Nicole what happened to Kenny?

The third TV insider pic (KT in the orange sleeveless top) is old. The second TV insider pic is new, it's how KT's current character looks at the end of the promo for week of July 14 when Jason spots her. The first TV insider pic is a cropped version of this pic with Sonny, But is this new or old?

I think Brandon Claybon is doing a great job.

The ongoing anguish was the point, and also Smitty being angry that Martin didn't warn him about Kenny. If Martin had told Smitty right away, there would not have been everything Smitty is feeling now.