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Coloma looks awfully gaunt these days. (Maybe he's been trying some sort of homeopathic Aaron Rodgers nonsense for COVID) The thinner he gets the less talent he has, IMO.

I honestly can't tell if that's Michael Ingram (Vinnie #3) or not, judging by recent 1980 episodes that also feature him prominently. I can see why it might not be though. That kid playing Danny sure looks broken up over Nat Polen. You didn't usually see soap child actors that emotional so I wondered if that's somehow the same kid from the '70s or what.

Right now, the Beltway pundits just seem very depressed the Dems passed the bill at all and got something done. I don't agree that they 'buried him with Afghanistan' - the public did not care and does not care about that withdrawal, which led to a lot of tantrums for the DC press over it. We'll see what happens with BBB, but Biden seems very committed and I think Pelosi and the CPC played out the stalemate for as long as they reasonably could and possibly beyond. They secured a lot of conditions from the moderates so we'll see what comes next. The Beltway above all wants a 'normal' GOP they can cheer on back, and will chase any potential hopeful or whitewash any 'just folks' GOP voters story in the hopes of getting it. But I do think 2022 is a long way away right now and this bill will be a part of it - if the Dems get behind it in real messaging. They also need to face the race issue, voting rights and the lies about stuff like CRT head-on instead of running from the debate, which too many do.

I do, yes.

Some shows, not others. He absolutely pulled punches on Ron and Frank back then.

They're not recasting Jason again, and they're def not recasting him with anyone you mentioned.

I knew about the Kirk Douglas rumor years ago. I still love a lot of his work, but it's never been far from my mind when watching him. I believe it's probably true. That being said, I know Natalie's daughter, Natasha Gregson Wagner, has been vocal in criticizing Lana Wood for what she felt was exploiting her mother's past with falsehoods, including in the recent HBO doc. (She may be biased, given that I believe she was raised as Robert Wagner's child.)

At least one other actor allegedly did attempt this, but relented recently and took the vax.

And pathetic and disgraceful. But as you say, that's been the nature of the industry for years.

A lot of the tweets pertaining to the sites being required or choosing to keep mum were already posted upthread, but again, I didn't get my confirmation from Twitter or any of those people. That being said, most of those sites and/or the daytime press are being silent until it breaks because they don't want to bite the hand that feeds. Given that in this business there are almost no hands left. As Chris said just above me, this is extremely common in the daytime industry with a rapidly shrinking and often compliant soap press which has happily buried stories or sat on them to keep good relations with the networks or shows for decades now. You have watched soaps and been a part of soap fandom long enough to know about plenty of those situations as well as I do, so please don't act brand new now. Exactly. Where is this supposed deep credulousness re: the Morina scandal? Or RKK? Or Tom Eplin? Or maybe other things that went underreported.

Please don't say 'with all due respect' when you're not showing any. And please stop pretending you were born yesterday and have no idea how these kind of situations often work re: PR, both in daytime and outside of it. This rumor is making traction, but as the network has done many times before, they're ignoring it for as long as they can because it's only buzzing among fans online, because all the soap blogs - which do have the information already - have openly said they are unable to report on it at present or speak about it due to their own symbiotic relationships with the networks. They are under a gag order. This is verifiable if you look, which you won't do because your personal ego is now invested in a one-sided debate you have invented unto yourself re: the moral imperative of actors being fired due to vaccine noncompliance and how fans should talk about them. Anyway: Your credulousness and discomfort with this discussion is not any of our shared responsibility or problem. If you're unhappy with the way this rumor is being discussed, the solution is to use your browser to click out of the tab or go back to the main forum. Best of luck.

It's also Friday, which may mean a Friday news dump in the afternoon (for those of you who simply believe everything you read, a Friday news dump is what politicians or companies often do when faced with bad news - dump it at 5 PM over the weekend). Or they may be trying to salvage the situation and convince Burton to get vaxxed before having to go to the press and face the music. Who knows.

Which they haven't done yet but could at any moment, and I didn't get my info from Twitter or from 'social media poseurs'. You will note there has been no denial, only silence. And frankly, Deadline is often the last to know re: soap news. Daytime is considered beneath them and so they are easily rolled by soap execs bc their interest in digging deeper is negligible. Whereas the actual soap press are simply bought into silence on scandals due to their symbiotic relationship with the daytime end of the networks, as they have been since the '60s. But you're right, I'm sure none of us can think of a reason why GH would try to keep a lid on a major firing of the biggest star of their show for 20 years until such time as they can't avoid it any longer.

That was a favorite of mine too. He was such an ass.

Not very!

Steve and Bradford Anderson also abruptly cancelled an IG live(? I think that's what it was) yesterday.

LMAO, what? The Iyanla Vanzant reunion near the end. Very juicy and scandalous, sure, and they're both 100% operators and self-important windbags to a certain point obviously trying to get out of ahead of the other as being in the right during that fateful conversation. But it also felt earnest and right. I'll semi-shamefully admit I love Iyanla's silly show on OWN, so I'm glad they patched it up. I never bought into Iyanla, but I missed her when she was gone.

It was one of few wholly great things JFP did. It gave Zaslow some final dignity as a performer. On a side note: They never revisited David Renaldi's past or mined his spy background for story in future years though with the Cramer characters still on canvas, and I felt that was a mistake. There was plenty to work with, particularly if you brought back Brynn Thayer for a visit. (IIRC, Thayer knew they had intended to kill Jenny off to simplify the focus of the ALS storyline and had consented to it, with the caveat either explicit or implicit from the show that they could easily resurrect her in future.)

So are they finally playing the Robert/Olivia beat? They've been teasing that since the early 2010s, and Lisa and Tristan Rogers have always had serious chemistry. I know they had her doing caper stuff with him, but I don't know how far it's gone.

Timing and upper management's incompetence, but yes. I thought the productions were excellent, but above the actual shows themselves the two big fly by night VCs behind Prospect Park allegedly paid next to no one for their work. And it was clear they were doing scammy, shady [!@#$%^&*] even when the shows were ongoing. While ABC and GH behaved arrogantly all along about their 'rights' to the shows, PP was not above issuing amateur hour, pre-Trumpian press releases and behaving just plain weirdly in public. Either way, the shows themselves were great and I agree they'd be hits today. I have my doubts about any primetime soap not burning itself out quickly in today's network climate, but I hope PV turns out well if it goes forward and I'm still keeping my eyes peeled for a pilot script. I do think SMG is guaranteed to return if it goes ahead. Does Peyton Place technically qualify? I guess it was a film first, then daytime last?

Citation needed lol

Why did they rewind the clock back to 2013 and bring back a host of other played out characters (Chloe, Kevin, Chelsea, etc)?

I 100% think CBS will jump at the chance to rehire Burton again if he vaxxes. They still haven't given up on being a bad ABC soap.