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1 hour ago, j swift said:

Mona knew Kitty's mother which is how she uncovered that Phoebe had paid Myrtle to impersonate Lucy Carpenter in order to interfere with the romance of Ann and Nick as well as Kitty and Linc.  Which explained why Kitty's "mother" didn't know she had a twin named Kelly.  That was also the start of the lifelong friendship between Mona and Myrtle.

Also, in case it is difficult to infer my intentions in written form, I am using humor to imply that Mona's motivation was anything but innocent with regard to Charles.  Because I enjoy the irony that this single mother just happened to wind up with one of the richest doctors in Pine Valley, while chastising her daughter Erica for chasing after wealthy married men like Kent Bogart.

You watched it then?

14 hours ago, j swift said:

Although I would never claim to be an expert, here's my recollection:

Mona was friends with Nick Davis and Kitty Shea's mother Lucy Carpenter (who was once impersonated by Myrtle Fargate) from her time on the cabaret circuit.  I don't think she was ever a performer.  However, after Eric abandoned her, she found work in nightclubs and hung with a "fast" crowd which both stunned and embarrassed her daughter when she found out.  One assumes that was either in Center City or some other urban center prior to moving to Pine Valley.  It must have been a very short, but meaningful, period of time because although Erica seems to have been raised in Pine Valley as a child, many of Mona's closest friends were from the club scene.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but there was some ambiguity in the beginning if Eric was actually in Hollywood, or if Mona made up that detail to explain his absence to Erica because she was never willing to provide many details.  Later, with the Kendall retcon, Eric's backstory was made clearer, but that story was different from the tales that Erica told while in high school wishing she could move to the bright lights of Hollywood with her father.

In the various projections I've read at Aggie's archive from that era I never read that Mona Kitty's mother. It's also clear that Eric, yes, was in Hollywood. I even have a copy of the projection which detailed Mona and Charles affair. It was written in 1974 or so and Mona was asked by Charles to help with Christmas shopping as Phoebe was too preoccupied with her social life. It was then, in which, they formed an intimate bond. Agnes made it CLEAR that it would play out very innocently and that their would be guilt and such from their feelings.

12 hours ago, j swift said:

Although I would never claim to be an expert, here's my recollection:

Mona was friends with Nick Davis and Kitty Shea's mother Lucy Carpenter (who was once impersonated by Myrtle Fargate) from her time on the cabaret circuit.  I don't think she was ever a performer.  However, after Eric abandoned her, she found work in nightclubs and hung with a "fast" crowd which both stunned and embarrassed her daughter when she found out.  One assumes that was either in Center City or some other urban center prior to moving to Pine Valley.  It must have been a very short, but meaningful, period of time because although Erica seems to have been raised in Pine Valley as a child, many of Mona's closest friends were from the club scene.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, but there was some ambiguity in the beginning if Eric was actually in Hollywood, or if Mona made up that detail to explain his absence to Erica because she was never willing to provide many details.  Later, with the Kendall retcon, Eric's backstory was made clearer, but that story was different from the tales that Erica told while in high school wishing she could move to the bright lights of Hollywood with her father.

You were watching it then? I thought you were much younger.

So, where is it stated Mona was in a cabaret.

1 hour ago, Khan said:

And you think that makes it okay to talk to that poster like that?

How old are you?

You have talked to me the same way for damn near a decade. 

48 minutes ago, Khan said:

That's it, I'm putting you on ignore.

Khan, the way I treated him is the way you and @Vee treated me when I first came here. And you two both know I am in the right with that persons remarks.

On 2/4/2022 at 4:56 PM, j swift said:

@danflingsuggestions for the casting of Linc Tyler made me think about how Phoebe was not given enough sympathy nor understanding at the start of the series for drinking to cope with the loss her son aka Chuck's father. 

BUT, record scratch, I was today years old when I learned that Charles Tyler II was the son of Dr. Charles Tyler and his FIRST wife Alicia.  Which means Chuck was Phoebe's step-grandson.  It was awfully nice of Phoebe to be so motherly to Chuck.  Even after her divorce, she was always supportive of Chuck and his kids.

Suddenly I am a Phoebe-stan and anti-Mona, I mean Erica didn't become brat out of thin air, and Mona's past on the cabaret circuit was always a bit suspicious.  Phoebe left her proverbial cards on the table, whereas Mona was hiding a secret in order to bag the big bucks from Dr. Tyler.

Erica had an abandonment complex. Much of her bratty behavior was a facade. She blamed her mom for Eric leaving the family even though his departure was largely due to him not wanting to be a father.

What secret was Mona hiding!

12 hours ago, j swift said:

I guess I should be more modern and not try to pit women like Phoebe and Mona against each other, especially when there is privilege and wealth to consider.  However, I can't help but be amused by the idea that Mona was in for the long con on getting her hooks into Dr. Tyler. 

How inept are you on AMC's history? And where was it stated that Mona was in a cabaret and why the hell does that make her 'suspicious'.

Phoebe was too preoccupied with her social standing and with keeping up appearances and not caring enough towards her family. She only seemed to care if their actions would be a bad reflection on her. Mona was actually caring and offered unconditional love -- something Phoebe didn't.

@DemetriKane I wish you were on these boards before it became the amateur hour.

It's almost been 14 years since Jesse/Angie reunion.

12 hours ago, j swift said:

I guess I should be more modern and not try to pit women like Phoebe and Mona against each other, especially when there is privilege and wealth to consider.  However, I can't help but be amused by the idea that Mona was in for the long con on getting her hooks into Dr. Tyler. 

How is it more modern to not pit women like them against each other?

12 hours ago, j swift said:

I guess I should be more modern and not try to pit women like Phoebe and Mona against each other, especially when there is privilege and wealth to consider.  However, I can't help but be amused by the idea that Mona was in for the long con on getting her hooks into Dr. Tyler. 

That isn't what happened.

39 minutes ago, Chris 2 said:

I think it was possible to do a good show without Bobby. But in primetime, once the audience starts to decline, it’s very hard to get them back. Dynasty is a good example: they finally fixed the show in season 9, but the audience never returned (the change of night didn’t help). LA Law is another good example: they changed showrunners and lost a few cast members starting with season 6. The audience greatly declined. Even though they eventually fixed the show, the audience never returned.

That’s one of the reasons they brought back Bobby - it got people talking about the show again. The cliffhanger episode with Bobby returning was the the highest rated episode of the season, tying with the season premiere. And the following season premiere was the highest rated episode since Bobby’s “death.” It’s too bad they explained his return away so quickly - they fumbled a chance to hook the audience again. 

Anything was better than what they did. They could have shown him tied up after Pam saw Mark killed in her shower and played out what they were going to play out (as much as Katzman was willing). Not sure what the explanation could have been. Had it been totally off the wall they could have toyed with his appearances for 5 episodes or so to keep up the anticipation. Also, that would hook the audience for in the event they came up with one lemon of an idea.

32 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Some jokes really do just write themselves.

 

That's us when we talk about Restless.

When have they been adverse to streaming aside from a decade ago when Prospect Park did their thing.

10 hours ago, Faulkner said:

Carlos from Brazil  

7 hours ago, Faulkner said:

 

 

Oh, that makes me wanna have a hookup but I have signs of syphilis LOL

19 hours ago, j swift said:

Am I going to have to be the jerk who mentions the pink elephant in the room?

What is up with La Lucci's eyebrows?  She is giving very much evil queen energy...

Is she not?

On 2/2/2022 at 9:18 AM, DemetriKane said:

OH! Cool she mentions Julia Barr/Brooke too. You need your rival Erica LOL.

Which is great! I love Brooke!!!

9 hours ago, reallyhateskateonlost said:

The View has said many racist stuff over the years, but ABC suspended a black woman.

Go figure.

They let Whoopi off easy and we both know that. I'm glad that they did though, I am glad they are only giving her a 2 week suspension, and that she is willing to learn.  Still though, cancel culture has been far less forgiving with some people.

The actress who plays Epiphany on GH.

Hubba hubba. She's not as hot as Roseanne Barr though (she really melts my butter too).

Blind item #1
One show is on the active hunt to recast a major character who has been off the canvas.

Hope? Luke? Stephanie? Thorn?

Blind item #2
Scheduling conflicts may force a soap to say good-bye to a popular rising star.

-Courtney Hope.

Blind item #3
Look for a round of exits to hit one sudser, including one star who has previously received walking papers.

-General Hospital.

On 1/21/2022 at 1:43 PM, Soapsuds said:

Yes but ATWT already did the story with Lucinda and the Laurence Lau character. He was into twinks  and came on to Luke.

 

He sure did!!!!!!!!

A bit off topic but didn't Bell try to do gay stories on DOOL?

1 hour ago, j swift said:

Not just breakfast, but Mamie's famous cinnamon rolls, which require a double rise, so that's an extra 2-2 1/2 hours!

You can freeze the dough though

On 1/15/2022 at 4:18 AM, Forever8 said:

 

When was that? Is the full sequence in the vault?

On 1/16/2022 at 11:23 AM, Khan said:

Unfortunately, the networks saw all that and came to the (very wrong) conclusion that ALL sitcom characters had to be that venal.

As you can tell, I've never been a "Seinfeld" fan.  To me, the characters (and actors) were all off-putting, and the scenes were so short, and the stories so convoluted, that they left little room for character exploration.

My husband JT swears by that show while I tend to lean towards your liking. That said, it occurred to me once that the show was basically dramatized 'stand-up' and that helped me understand the scene length.

11 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

https://whathappensinsalem.wordpress.com/2014/10/29/wtf-wednesday-virtual-eden/     I can't properly explain it either. But the person that wrote this blog does a good job. Sorry i took so long to answer. I was searching for clips. But there are none.

12 hours ago, carolineg said:

I feel like Kirsten was considered a bit of a 'get' back then because of her Disney channel fame.  I swear if I didn't read about it in SOD I would have been shocked when it happened.  And the "Oh my you've grown!" when they returned from their honeymoon.  Ewww....

I thought it was more of a disagreement over how much the teens were used, not so much their introduction.  I think they had very different ideas of what they wanted.

I mean the Last Blast Crew must have been more popular than I thought if there was a Saturday Morning Spinoff being bandied about.

The Virtual Garden of Eden stuff with Greta/Austin.   I would try to explain it, but I can't.

Thank you.

1 hour ago, victoria foxton said:

 

  

What was this about?

On 12/18/2021 at 8:57 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

Unpopular opinion: daytime soaps that were linked to production companies that also produced movies were/are in a much better position than the daytime soaps that were linked to corporations that had production companies. A Warner Brothers and a Sony Pictures will always treat the issue of archives with more regard than a corporation like Proctor and Gamble.

How is this an unpopular opinion?

7 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

I’d say a good amount of 1992-1993 could have surpassed Y&R for #1. The Sheila/Lauren dream sequence got the show to #2 in the fall of 1992 and the show has pretty much stayed there. 

What dream sequence?

On 11/2/2021 at 11:14 AM, Hunnibunni1025004 said:

@FrenchFan Thank you so much for these recaps! I am really enjoying the Golden Age of soaps !!!

I thought Jenny on AMC was retcond to exist when she arrived. I didn't realize Opal was thought to have been dead. That said, in Aggies archive, the first draft of Jenny's intro was there and it was said the mom had died and Jenny became a hell-raiser. The point was to contrast "sweet Tad". This was 1980, before MEK joined.