Everything posted by Soaplovers
-
One Life to Live Tribute Thread
It worked out for Robin's favor, even though I thought Elaine was a superior actress.. but popularity always trumps talent sometimes. @DRW50I remember an interview with Ms Slezak where she confirmed that Sloan dying was the trigger for the return of her DID. She said she was sad that the return of the DID story would result in Sloan's death since she enjoyed working with Roy T. I do agree that the Sarah character was only revived as a thorn/obstacle to Bo/Cassie.. and not really because the character was beloved and missed. While Grace Phillips gave a good performance and infused Sarah with an edge/backbone, fans just didn't take to her because she wasn't Jenson. We look at Jenson through 2025 lenses, but back in 1991/1992.. Jenson was looked at favorably and was popular on OLTL during her stint. So even though a fairly good actress came onto the canvas to play Sarah, the show really didn't know what to do with her after the initial back from the dead story and being a suspect in Carlo Hesser's death concluded. It also didn't help that her on screen sister Megan passed away mere weeks after she debuted as Sarah either.
-
Guiding Light Discussion Thread
The only thing I remember about the blizzard was that Mindy got stranded with Nick/Eve... and this was the first time you saw that Eve wasn't dealing with a full deck when she started taunting Mindy. Mindy had a look of disbelief/fear, but when Nick came into the room.. Eve resumed her normal demeanor. Lana could have been a stage name, or a way to rebel against the Reardons since she could have been the black sheep of the family. Or Lana is the americanized version of the Irish name Alannah
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
What the show is showing is that privilege comes from money and influence no matter what your gender, age, or race. Dani has skirted through life without ever suffering any consequences and it's why she's the entitled individual that she is today. It's also why she's taking the divorce so hard because this is the first time she's ever not gotten what she's wanted and she doesn't know how to deal with that. If she were played by a talented actress that could play the layers of hurt, pain, and regret.. then I could root for her. Contrast that with Silk Press Sheila/Dana/Lulu/Anna/Sherri.. who is also written as one note.. but the actress plays her with different shades and layers that you root for her. Hayley's fashion fascinates me. I almost wish she and Silk Press Sheila knew one another so that she could be taught how to shop. Although the writers need to really think about how they're writing Hayley's character.. mix her up with some of the other characters. In fact, one idea I had in regards to Hayley and her place at the country club is that she figure out Vanessa/Diego's work out routine and uses that to get Vanessa to associate with her. Although the fact that the country club/staff will still associate with Bill and not Hayley shows a double standard. Why only punish the other woman when it was Bill that violated his marriage vows and dumped Dani for Hayley? Why not give both individuals the cold shoulder instead of just one of them.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
According to the wiki website, it looks as though she and Eva moved back to the area in 2024 after the death of Alan. I think it was mentioned it had been at least six months or so since his death.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
That's fine, you don't have to care about Ashley. And yes, she lived with Dana her whole life, but I have a feeling this extreme behavior from Dana didn't really start until the death of Dana's husband Alan.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I think yesterday was another set up day for future story in regards to Ashley and I think this because of a few nuggets mentioned throughout the run of the soap thus far: 1) Ashley was the nurse attending to Laura in week 1 2) Ashley was falling asleep during a night out with Derek/Naomi/Jacob 3) Eva in episode #2 mentioned that she felt her life was in limbo compared to Ashley's, who seemed to have everything going well with her first day as a nurse. 4) People have been boasting about her being a miracle nurse since the elevator baby situation... even someone as nice as Ashley would let that go to her head. 5) Laura's one blood test result had potassium in it. 6) Ashley was spoken to about her clerical error with dosage of potassium even though she did give the right dosage. I have a feeling the show is setting it up where Ashley will be accused of causing the issues with Laura. If that doesn't happen, then the last 30+ episodes have been a waste for Ashley's character and the show is just running in circles with her character. If this happens , Silk Press Sheila has managed to derail the 'daughters' of both of her Have not friends... and all for Eva.. while poor Eva is probably going to feel guilty and not have proof of her mom's activities. And I have a feeling Shanice will be remember 'Lulu' and I also think maybe Andre might have filmed 'Lulu' looking up the test results (even though we didn't see him filming during that scene.. it still could have happened). Also, I think Anita's story will get started at the end of April and start to develop during May sweeps while other stories are hitting their peak, etc. And I noticed the actress playing Chelsea has finally hit her stride acting wise in these last few episodes. Soap acting is tough and it takes time to get into the groove of acting on a soap.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
If I'm not mistaken, the clerical error Ashley made on the chart was the dosage for Potassium... which was found in Laura's blood work. So I wonder if perhaps we got some foreshadowing of trouble for Nurse Ashley.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
Silk Press Sheila adapting a southern accent as Lulu? I see that our nurse Shanice was onto her right away. The actress playing Shanice says so much with her eyes and facial expressions, and I fear for her safety since 'Lulu' now has her in her sights. Chelsea/Samantha scene was pretty good, and I have a feeling that once Dani gets wind of Samantha's dream.. she'll be on her like a pray mantis. With Chelsea not on board with Samantha's dream because of her own experiences.. I sense some mother/daughter conflict. Martin/Smitty on a date And no Martin, your line wasn't cheesy in the way that you probably thought it was cheesy. A double entendre is always my favorite line of dialogue. That last scene between Eva and Silk Press Sheila really shows that Eva understands that her mom is off her rocker. Unpopular opinion, but I didn't mind the Ashley scene today. In fact, it was the first time that the show attempted to give the character a little bit of depth and I think the actress did as well as she could. The show really needs a white Millennial/Gen Z script writer since the current script writers seem unable, or incapable of writing younger white characters effectively. Or the actors need to be allowed to modify their dialogue (Victoria Rowell used to do that on Y & R so not out of left field). And also Ashley and Derek were included in MVJ's bible.. but sometimes what works on paper doesn't always work when implemented.
-
Loving/The City Discussion Thread
Using the Nielsen Ratings results from Jason47's website (which I assume were accurate for all soaps), it appeared as though Ryan's Hope ratings were not in good shape by the time Loving debuted. They usually finished 1 or 2 spots above Loving in the first few months of Loving's time on air so when they changed timeslots.. it didn't help either soap opera. In fact, it kind of helped Search for Tomorrow a bit because there were weeks in late 1984 where the ratings between Search and Loving were not far apart.. and Loving had more affiliates airing vs Search. I think the problem was that Loving didn't have a distinct identity that would make people want to go check out the soap. Even if the soap had kept the original concept of focusing on the college and the people that worked/attended it.. it wouldn't have been enough to make it popular. Although their first week ratings were a 4.9 for a time slot that wasn't known for airing soap operas with almost full affiliate support.. so had the show come out strong right out the gate, it could have worked in that time slot.
-
All My Children Tribute Thread
I watched a few episodes with the New Nat once the Carter story and blindness story were over.. in order to see how she would do with Nat when not in peril. She wasn't too bad as Nat at all. She had a warmer and less neurotic demeanor.. and did well the few times the show bothered to write Nat with a bit of wit/sarcasm during her stint. She was a good actress, but playing the wrong character. @MaximErica in 1983, from what my mom told me, was her in peak form. She had obtained her life and career in NYC during that time and would come back to visit Pine Valley for events where her observations were so out of sync with the rest of Pine Valley.. it was almost comical.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I loved the twist that the men were trying to playfully warn Tomas about Kat.. not the other way around Other then the lack of follow up on the stellar cliffhanger from yesterday, this was a superb episode. It makes me sad that B & B no longer produces fashion shows at this level anymore when that was one of the highlights of that soap in the 80s/90s/00s. Maybe this show will help light a fire under that soap and they can eventually produce a fashion show of quality again. This episode was definitely Chelsea's episode.. and the first episode where it shows how comfortable the actress has gotten playing the character and doing a soap opera. Lots of warm family moments with Martin/Smitty and their daughter... plus some great moments between Samantha/Chelsea/Kat. I'm going to miss the actor playing Ted because he can effortlessly play the charming handsome father and husband, but also play the rougher elements as we saw yesterday. A delayed thought from yesterdays episode and having seen the Have Not Gossip session at play: I noticed that Jan and Silk Press Sheila have a good rapport and similar viewpoint about the wealthy country club while Mona seems to be the third wheel in that friend group. I wonder if that will play out.
-
ALL: Best character FEUDS
GL: Nola vs Vanessa. Made richer when they became sister in laws ATWT: Susan vs Kim. What I liked about this feud was that there were years when the two had a ceasefire and were even friendly with one another (especially during the Susan/Larry marriage years). And then something would set off the feud again rather it was something Susan did or comments Kim would make. AMC: Erica vs Brooke I was always team Erica. Erica was a have not while Brooke was a rich brat. While Erica was always insecure and seeking admiration from people/men, Brooke always pretended she was better then Erica and everyone else even though she had no problems going for men that Erica no longer was interested in. Talk about low self-esteem. GH: Lucy vs Katherine People always say that Bobbie vs Lucy was their favorite of Lucy's feuds.. but I always got a kick out of Lucy and Katherine whenever they sparred. Sometimes it would carry out during the annual Nurses Ball. It was a comical feud and it started because of how Lucy viewed Katherine as trying to soil her late friend Dominique's memory and tried to swindle Scotty and Serena out of their inheritance.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
The one thing I've noticed so far on this soap is that a random line/comment seems to be foreshadowing of sorts for future story. In Week 1: Hayley wondering if people at the law firm liked her, or held it against her that she was marrying the boss while a offhand comment from Mike about Hayley got Bill upset. Turned out to be foreshadowing the lawsuit story and confirmed Hayley's instincts were correct. So today's comments from Ted about his lawyer will probably tie Bill and/or Mike into the story with Silk Press Sheila. Also, Smitty's comments about the influencer story he was going to be doing and mentioning he hoped to talk to Chelsea after the fashion show makes me think her two random scenes of Chelsea's double life with the guy and his partner will probably tie into whatever this new story Smitty is chasing is. I knew when Shanice last week mentioned Laura and how Eva is just ok compared to Laura.. I knew Laura would be making her way back into the story.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
Jazmen written scripts are always a treat, but we also should give credit to the breakdown writer Dunn because the episode flowed quite well. Leslie/Silk Press Sheila vs Ted was so good and I also noticed that the scenes between them ran a little longer then usual. So after getting a glimpse of Mr Hyde (Ted's dark side), I'm even more confused why he was replaced since he played up the dark/rough edges flawlessly. And Leslie/Silk Press Sheila is so well cast! She was missed! Laura and Mona came back after a hiatus, but I have a feeling that Laura might not be ready to go back to work quite yet if the last scene is an indication (and girl... where are gloves?) I'm curious what Martin's secret is.. and the story that Smitty mentioned he's working on I have a feeling will involve Chelsea and maybe shed a bit of light on those two quick scenes where we saw a less timid/more confident Chelsea with the guy and his partner. I agree with everyone else that Martin should have been Vernon/Anita's son and not grandson. Can't wait for tomorrow.
-
Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Ah, this is during that awkward stage between Marland's stint and Pam Long's stint where it seemed as though a lot of the stories were in standstill or being cleaned up. Regarding Morgan, I do recall that between this period and May 1983 that she hung out more with Rick and Philip before she left the canvas in May 1983 just as Mindy/Beth were arriving on the scene. Kelly doesn't have a lot to do for awhile until Claire Ramsay comes on the scene later in 1983.. and they're roommates that eventually date before he leaves the show in 1984. The Dobsons/Marland's were pros at writing gothic stuff.. and you can tell that whoever was writing the show at this point didn't know quite how to write effective gothic content. If I recall, most of this story is resolved just before Long joins the canvas as headwriter.
-
Texas! Discussion Thread
They eventually remedied that by Iris transferring that obsessive love over onto her son Dennis and her initial disapproval over his relationship with Dawn. So she has Dawn's older sister Paige help her break them up, then Paige turns around and marries Dennis. Thus Iris becomes the mother in law from hell. She kind of reverts back to the nicer Iris as she leaves the soap.. even briefly helping her nieces Lacey and Brette before she moves to New York to run the Alex Wheeler foundation. Ironically, the show found it's footing creatively once Iris/Dennis/Elliot leave the soap.. but the viewers didn't want to stick around with Iris gone so the ratings dipped drastically.
-
Guiding Light Discussion Thread
Coopers had been in America for at least two generations so it made sense that the family had become more American than Greek, which is typical for most families/groups that are in the country for two or three generations). In regards to Eleni, I had no idea that the actress didn't speak with a Greek accent until she was on something else and didn't have the Greek accent. At least Eleni was played by a Greek actress. In regards to the Reardons, I could have bought that they were Irish and Protestant if Marland had bothered to build/mention their backstory where their ancestors fled Ireland because they were a religious minority and came to America to avoid religious persecution. Both Ireland and North Ireland have a decent Protestant population (and I know this because my paternal ancestors were Irish protestant and my maternal ancestors were Irish Catholic).
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
Andre is a playboy, but only the wonderful and magical Ashley can cure him of his player/playboy ways. LOL In regards to Vanessa, I came across a Lifetime movie the actress made a few years ago where she's playing a character more like Nicole then Vanessa. If she could channel some of what she played in that movie into Vanessa then her and Nicole being friends will make sense. And the actress can play a convincing mom, which will come in handy in the event the show casts Vanessa/Doug's kids down the line.
-
FOX's Tribes (1990)
It also appears as though the premiere of Tribes was pushed back five or six weeks from the 2nd part of January 1990 until the first week of March 1990 according to an LA Times article. The creator Leah Laiman lamented on that sudden change of premiere date because they wouldn't be able to make changes/corrections quickly because they would have too many of the episodes already filmed and in the can by the time the show debuted. It does explain why the last twenty to twenty five episodes of Tribes had a marked improvement and focused on the characters/stories that were making an impression on the viewers. Stacey Cox was the breakout character of the soap and I have a feeling had the show not been canceled suddenly that her character would have eventually become the lead character over her onscreen sister (the classic ingenure caught between two guys). The last five episodes shown/available on Youtube (episode 86 to 90) was heavily focused on the rape storyline involving Pete Sago and Stacey Cox. What made this story interesting was the fact that both characters had past history of lying. In fact, the lawyer discussion of having Pete's older sister take over guardianship was to ensure that his lies about being being a wealthy kid wouldn't be exposed in court.. while Stacey's past lies were coming back to haunt her and her on the run story with Daryl had definite summer teen possibilities. According to Michelle Stafford in an old interview, she had mentioned the story planned for her involve her getting involved with Melinda's ex Billy. The seeds were planted in earlier episodes where her character Frankie had made moves on Matt, which made Melinda jealous. So it made sense that Billy and Frankie would have interacted once the whole counterfeit money story arc had resolved. I remember being a child and watching the show. The story I remember most was the Mrs Robinson story between Chris and the older woman played by Janice Lynde. From looking at the Youtube channel, I remember seeing episode 64 when she removed her dress and stood in front of Chris. Episode 65 had a parental guidance advisory at the start of the episode, so my mom hit record on the VCR so it taped. After it taped, she watched the episode and I guess the two got hot and heavy in the episode so my mom wouldn't let me watch it. In these current times, that story was pushing the envelope since the character of Chris was under 18 and she was over 40 so I was surprised that the story was being done.. but seemed to quickly end without anyone really finding out about the two... I don't think.
-
FOX's Tribes (1990)
I just watched the final episodes that were uploaded onto Youtube (episodes 86 to 90).. and unless the uploader mislabeled the episodes, I do think there 95 episodes for the entire series and not 90 episodes. Reason I say that is because I was a child when the show was on originally and I was home watching it in the summer, and I remember there were a week of episodes that aired in the Chicago area after the 90th episode before it was canceled. I think those episodes had to do with JoJo and his trying to impress a new girl.. and Stacy/Daryl still on the run.
-
Classic Primetime Miniseries - Trashy or Classy?
I saw it one time back in the day when the WE (Women's Entertainment) network used to air 80s mini series. I didn't like nor dislike it.. but it was presented more as a historical romance though I'm sure in modern 2020s lenses would be considered a sexist movie.
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I think the problem was that the show was too focused in the first week or two with the Dani/Bill/Hayley story.. and everything else was pushed to the side. So what we're getting in week 4 and 5 were things that should have been covered/discussed in the first week or two of the show (i.e. Vanessa/Doug gambling story, etc). With that said, I am a little bummed that Gregori Martin isn't on the writing staff since I tended to l like his breakdowns... and I dread Jamey G joining since I've read up on that individual and while he turns up the crazy.. it doesn't seem to be good crazy. The other thing that we have to remember is that no new soaps have been developed since 1999 with several soaps being canceled the late 00s/early 10s. So any sort of writing training programs were stopped and there was little to no chance of new writers being mentored in soap opera writing 101. And I heard this all the time from Victoria Rowell when she was on Y & R with the need of a black writer and she was correct in her assessment. I echo that, but instead of another black writer.. there needs to be a Gen Z/young millennial white writer as a script-writer. I know many a twenty something white male/female couplings.. and none of them act nor talk like Derek or Ashley
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
A decent breakdown from Ron Carlivati and a good script from Danielle Paige. I've felt that Paige's scripts have leaned more on the literary without always succeeding in adapting it to the soap opera realm. Today's episode from her was pretty good. Hayley/Derek 1:1 was a surprise and from what I learned... Hayley knew Ashley/Derek, but they knew Naomi longer then Hayley. I think the backstory was that Jacob and Derek were friends pre-Naomi/Ashley... and once the two couples came together, Hayley was slowly brought into the friendship mix. I'm glad that Bill wasn't faking his hand going numb and downplayed it for Naomi. This will come into play later on.. either at an event or during the actual court case. Good Chelsea/Bill and Naomi/Dani scenes. Dani was written as almost human and actually cares about someone other then herself. Shanice is the only bright spot in the Ashley/Derek/Andre story thus far. Vanessa/Joey do have chemistry.. and I wonder where things will go with them. I also wonder if next week will be their turn at taking a break from being featured at all. Thank gosh Silk Press Sheila will be back next week in some capacity. I'm hoping Dani will eventually take a week off so we can actually enjoy the other characters.
- Another World Discussion Thread
-
BTG: April 2025 Discussion Thread
I understood why the first week or two had high octane stories/scenes because they wanted to grab viewers and keep them coming back. However, the incessant focus on Dani/Hayley/Bill during that first week or two at the expense of developing the B, C, and backburner stories is kind of biting them in the butt. The biggest issue the show could run into in the long run will be pacing. Back in the day, soap operas had multiple plotlines going on at the same time and were going at different speeds. For instance, while Story A is climaxing, story B is in the build-up to the climax, story C is being formulated.. while the characters not involved directly in those three stories are recapping, having their characters being developed, and/or planting seeds for their next story. So far on this show, the pacing is all off. While we celebrated Ashley/Derek/Andre not being featured all of last week, we now are faced with other characters barely getting any focus this week (i.e. Silk Press Sheila, Smitty/Martin) or getting too much unneeded focus (i.e Dani). This week basically was a rinse and repeat with Dani/Bill, Hayley being snubbed, Dani/Andre hooking up, Chelsea/Dani, etc. All of the scenes I mentioned were already done before in the previous weeks and done better. This week, I would have had a Silk Press Sheila/Jan/Mona dinner.. and maybe Silk Press Sheila sees Kat or Nicole.. and tries to avoid being seen. Or perhaps Smitty's new assignment would involve Joey Armstrong and the potential corruption going on with the police department. Or we could have had a Hayley scene at the country club being snubbed again and she interacts with Diego... or sees Diego/Vanessa together. At the same time, I'm still watching and enjoying the process of seeing a new soap unfold and I remind myself that the soaps I saw debuting back in the day (Port Charles, Passions, Sunset Beach, and Generations) had shaky starts so I'll continue to watch with anticipation daily