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A joke. Sorry. I think B&E were watchable the whole way through (even if San Cristobel and the Santos both stayed too long), but their first half was definitely better than the second half. I don't think all the decisions were bad, and some didn't have to be bad but were never rectified later on, but some of the characters who were killed off and the huge shift the show made in 1984 took it to places they had a hard time shaking off. When I watch 84-86 GL it sometimes doesn't even seem like the show I knew, it's just some of the cast who keep things going. Then around 1987 they do start pivoting back in a better direction.

This is more like a Murder on the Orient Express. You could go all the way back to 1983 for the decisions that ended GL - or maybe even a few years earlier if you count P&G's ageism. At least Conboy could have found the baseball diamond in Peapack.

The only time I think that was the case for GL in the years I've seen was, possibly, Millee Taggart at the end of 2002/early 2003, although I'm not a big fan of her spring or summer work with the show. I think P&G veered between letting people go too early because they weren't getting ratings up enough or letting people stay too long - JFP stayed at least two years too long, Rauch stayed two years too long. I think P&G slowly strangled their shows rather than actively killing them. They still felt some use for them but they no longer tried to step in the way they did up to the mid '90s. It was only by the late '00s that they moved out of the daytime market, so when CBS also wanted rid of GL and ATWT, they didn't care.

I remember this as well. Then the show just became known for the ugly mess with Sharon Osborne.

Silent Clowns Film Series: Taxi! Taxi! (1927) at the Bruno Walter Auditorium – PIANYC The Silent Clowns Film Series is New York’s longest-running regularly scheduled silent film showcase. Our programming reaches the serious film buff by including rarely-screened titles and rare prints, yet it also introduces kids and new audiences to the classics of the silent screen. Screenings feature live piano accompaniment by MoMA’s Ben Model, with an introduction and Q&A by film historians Model and Steve Massa. Remembered today for his fussy persona in sound films, Edward Everett Horton had a substantial career in silent comedy and starred in numerous features and shorts. We are proud to present the re-premiere of a Horton feature that was lost and recently rediscovered. Taxi! Taxi! (1927) was produced by Universal, and is perfectly tailored to Eddie’s well-known screen character. Opening the bill is the also re-discov-ered cartoon The Battle (1922) with Koko the Clown. I'm not sure how this was discovered. It was screened on January 11th. Wiki just mentions the film being found in late 2024.

He did some promos for B&B in the late '00s or early '10s, I think. Not sure where he is now.

JFP? McTavish? AI Doug Marland?

Thanks for sharing these links as even after all these years I had never read any of those interviews. I'm very glad that site was able to get in touch with so many people and that the site is still up. Seeing Les Brandt talk about Nancy Frangione and Charles Keating as if they were still alive reminds me of how many we've lost over the last 15 years. Les' idea of what Maggie and Rafael would be doing now is not one I would agree with, but he's putting more thought into them than AW ever did. Clayton seems like a nice guy, and I appreciated all his backstage stories of the support he got while also sharing his frustration at how little was done with the character. Then as now, black characters seemed to just be kept in tiny boxes. He mentions the nasty letters the studio received, which likely ended any plans they may have had. Not surprised...and they'd probably get the same reaction (or worse) now. Josie's friendship with Reuben was maybe the only time I found her character interesting.

I can't remember either - maybe William Daniels? Thanks for the extra info, and also to @kalbir @Paul Raven

This isn't directly GH related, but I was looking around Youtube and see that last year someone put up a 1949 episode of the Herb Shriner Show they'd managed to piece together from a rough tape. This was Herb's first TV show. Herb was the father to three kids, one of them being Kin. I wonder if he knows about this video.

Day in and day out he retweets Nazi accounts. We are at a place now where no one cares, at least no one in power - the media, the Republicans. The judges who do care are probably going to be ignored as the new GOP line is that judges don't matter. The rich are thriving and the rest of us are left in the sewers. But at least John Oliver and Jon Stewart can have a big dopey grin yuk yuk about how America is now a monarchy.

Sadly, in some ways, they were "right" in that Audrey and Steve never had major story again after they married, although part of that is probably down to aging out of a central narrative. At least efforts were made to keep them with more of a focus than Lee or Jessie got. This is still a common view now, to the point where one soap I watch (Home & Away) only has characters have children if they are about to leave the show. It's amazing that Lesley did manage to connect with viewers, unlike many high-priced poachings from other networks (one of them being Gerald Gordon a few years later). They seemed very close to bungling the whole thing. I know the main reason given is the Laura story. I wonder how much is also down to Michael Gregory. They have such a natural connection which I don't think she has with Chris Robinson. Watching the individual episodes is worthwhile, but I'm not sure how I would have felt watching GH in the '60s or early '70s knowing the characters could never progress and would just have to relive the same traumas again and again, only stopping along the way for another dead baby. Maybe that's where the patient stories served as a palate cleanser for viewers.

That's very funny. I wonder how quickly they decided to kill her off. Teri never really got a break in soaps post-EON.

Turns out it wasn't a 1988 episode and they misdated it.

I remember in that "catching up with our first cover cast" SOD article from the mid '90s, Ron mentioned doing a lot of theater, so you are probably right. This was where he told the funny story about Yvonne de Carlo asking him to go to bed with her.

That's one I put up a month ago, although it's an episode from a long-gone channel I can't remember and I just reuploaded it, so they probably did the same.

Never mind - those Chip Albers clips are already in the 1988 stuff available on Archive.

I know she has some fans (including several here), it's just never around when I look at Twitter or Bluesky, which have a more divided opinion on many characters. I think the blame on Mansi in some cases is unfair, but when I watch Kristina scenes I do feel like Mansi can't really get a hold on whatever Kristina is meant to be.

I think it was more than just Luke/Noah. This was a whole period of time, which still goes on today to a degree (the British soaps keep trying to force straight women into lesbian relationships over and over) where the soaps were trying to tap into an lgbt audience. I think it may have been less about offending anyone and more about censors. I don't have a problem believing censors would object more to a lesbian relationship than straight cousin incest. The oddest part for me was when they had a big chunk of an episode revolving around the women going vibrator shopping...all while making sure to never say vibrator. That character was so slimy to begin with, so to me the issue was more the story seemed to go into "cry rape" territory until someone at the network got squeamish and he was killed off.

Given how massively unpopular the Kristina recast seems to be this might be one of the rare times GH fans would side with a black man...

Thanks. It has but it's been a while.

I never saw Olivia as man crazy as much as desperately needy and prone to melodramatic romances. For that reason, her being involved with Natalia didn't really bother me. If GL had lasted the relationship never would have stuck anyway, because Olivia just never was going to be happy. I was more surprised when I learned that she had been involved with Frank and Buzz. Thank you. I never saw the comments. I didn't watch her GL run very closely but I'm not sure she had anything as repulsive in terms of assault and consent. I might say "Jammy" due to the origins, but I know many loved that story. Matt sleeping with Dinah when she had brain damage might be another, although maybe she was meant to be A-OK by then.

They still have a few they could get rid of, several I'd place before Dev. He hasn't been that bad over the last decade. He was much worse in the late '00s and early '10s.