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Adrianna from Miami is 47 (a total shock IMO) and Cristy is also shockingly in her 40s.

Brandi reminds me of Farrah Fawcett with those nipples. I think the biggest prudes are generally just jealous. Kyle needs to take a seat. How weird that Kyle and Taylor have teamed up this season (which has been very damaging for Kyle's reputation) considering Kyle knew what the public thought of Taylor last year. She got to watch the footage and see that TAYLOR instigated the fued with Camille and her. She got to see TAYLOR start the fight that helped ruin her realtionship with Kim. Why is she so concerned with being her friend? And why don't the other ladies hold her to anything? After last season no way should Camille be begging her to be her friend. I'm dreading this reunion and how lame it's going to be. I hope they include Brandi as a regular HW at the reunion since she basically is there the entire season.

Carl, thanks for making my blood boil lol. It always upsets me to hear what happened to Ryan's Hope during that period. To think the bar was blown up and not used for so long is just sick. Obviously they can't admit they were influenced by the success of GH, but that is really what it was. If you wanna speed things up, add teens, etc. you can do that, but it should still be the same show. What is described in that article is a completely different show. One thing I love about Claire Labine is that she seemed to embrace what she was given and weaved it into a better story (and show). She was even able to salvage a Kirkland and Dakoda. She's a smart writer and always did a brilliant job digging RH out of a hole. Unfortunately, I've only really seen 1978 through wherever SOAPnet ended. I hate watching soaps on the net so I haven't seen any of the episodes on YouTube. I'd love to one day be able to see those later years and Robin Mattson as Delia in particular. Perhaps I'll stop being lazy and look on YouTube. I do think I plan on buying the SOAPnet years soon so I can relive this. I wanna really focus in on those earlier years. I've o nly seen bits and pieces which is a shame.

Is Brendan the one with the porn mustache? I liked what little I saw of him, probably just because I thought it was cute. I almost fell into a coma watching my first episode, but I'm going to wait until I watch the full week and all of Later to make a decision. I know soaps can have off days and I know the way Hollyoaks rotates it's cast, it can also have off weeks. I'm just hoping that Later is interesting enough it makes me want to continue watching the main show. Knowing Michaela is back is definitely a good thing that makes me want to continue watching. If they announced a return for Zak I'd probably have a heart attack. The first episode I watched had a lot of teens featured and they seemed terrible compared to what we had with Kirkwood and even Allen. There was a girl Sinead and her friends at a party. I also caught the name Bart and didn't care for him either. I actually didn't mind Sinead, but the other girls were pretty dull. The Hollyoaks Later episode was better, but this cast is definitely going to take some adjusting. I was happy to see so much of what McQueen's are left since that was my favorite family. I do wish they could try and get the actor who plays John Paul back.

It's hard to believe, but considering OLTL is truly ending, I needed another soap. I'm currently watching Y&R (FF mostly), DAYS (which I enjoy) and B&B (which is boring me these days). In addition I'm collecting and watching Passions from the beginning, which is very entertaining. I decided the most compatible soap to replace OLTL would probably be Hollyoaks. It's different and has that similar mix of comedy, drama, old and young. I decided to start with the week of Hollyoaks Later, along with the corresponding week of the main show. I haven't watched since the very beginning of Paul Marquesses tenure. Will post my thoughts soon!

I actually don't know if Jeana is returning, but I used her as an example because she comes and goes so often. Like last season she wasn't a HW, but was central to the final episodes. Then again, with OC, they constantly have the former housewives appear at events. I like that because it feels more real, but I do wish some were featured more since clearly they're still a part of the current wives lives.

It seems like Alex was mainly fired because they want to make the series more like Beverly Hills. All the new wives are very wealthy in that vein and the ones from NYC that they kept go along with that theme. Alex simply won't fit. I wouldn't be surprised if she appears in guest appearances though and if one of the new HWs doesn't work out I expect her to return ala Jeana on OC. Bravo is staying true to their word about wanting Alex around. Alex and Simon appeared on the Watch What Happens Live Halloween show and I'm sure they'll be popping up. We'll see.

In She By Sheree's defense,. she only mentioned Nene's teeth after Nene started talking about all of Sheree's money problems. In general though, I do think Sheree got played. It's obvious the promoter used her to get to Nene, the bigger name, then tried to cut Sheree out himself. Not sure why Sheree didn't see that. It's a very common practice in the promoting business.

If they have a brain Brandi will be a full housewife next season. She's been an absolute hit with viewers and in addition to the potential for bitch fights she adds a lightness to the show. I want to see more of her life with her kids and her friends. Judging by twitter and what we've seen she seems to live a fun life.

What gets me is how cracked out Kim is, even in her Talking Heads. It's so sad watching how much Brandi was bullied, yet EVERYBODY seems to be lying when they tell the story of what happened. Then you have Brandi believing it and actually trying to apologize, yet they're giving her trouble. What a pack of wolves. I will say, I do love that with every negative comment Brandi does seem aware and apologizes. Like the comment about Dana's fiance. She immediately apologized and even did again in her Talking Head. That's rare for a show like this. Considering how we know this season will end, I wodner how the reunion will be. Or if they'll film one.

No wonder it was a hard sell, I didn't realize it was one of those late night syndicated soaps. I wonder if they did a one episode pilot or a full week. How does it typicall go with soap pilots? I wonder who won that Peyton Place '82 story projection. I'd be curious to read that. Maybe something similar could be found with the '79 version.

Oh wow! That is quite the find. I'd love a DVD release one day that included that and those five episodes of Return To Peyton Place as bonus features. It will never happen, but there is a ton of stuff out there to do a massive complete collection for this show. Is it safe to assume Peyton Place 79 was a remake meant for primetime? I kinda get that feel since they didn't attempt to bring back any old cast members, but it does look like the characters are older than the start of the series. It's so close to Murder In Peyton Place that I'm surprised they didn't attempt to bring any old actors back. Probably would've been easier to sell.

Yeah they'll have to try and rush season four, but why did they start filming so soon? They started half way through the airing of season 3. They gave themselves no time to assess what was working and what wasn't working. Also, they should've added a couple housewives because I do see this family drama getting old. I wonder how they will handle Jacquline not going to the season 3 reunion due to things that happened season FOUR. Which means she also might not be available for publicity and what not for season 4 lol. It's confusing! I also don't believe that they are finished filming so they should have time to go a different direction for the second half of the season. Maybe it's time to make Kim D a full housewife since they always feature her. I just need something other than this family drama.

I didn't know how it would work watching Passions since NBC has always been the network I had the most difficulty with. Port Charles was the first soap I watched regularly and I still couldn't manage to keep watching that from the beginning. With Passions however, I'm hooked and can't get enough. It's a total success and I'm thankful that I decided to start collecting it. Right now I'm in the middle of October of the first year and the stories are well formed and the cast is really strong. Unlike so many soaps, they mostly got it right in terms of characters that can carry the show for years and years. I like that they didn't cram everything into that first month and are now branching out and introducing story for characters like Eve, Julian, Simone and Ivy. Also things aren't going nearly as slow as I know they become. It's still slow, but it's very similar to the Bill Bell pacing I'm used to. The show is also VERY traditional soap which I wasn't expecting. By the time it was on DirecTV the show was truly a parody of a soap. I enjoyed it, but I do see that the family connections were missing. I find it VERY interesting that Simone is the one who originally spots Chad, yet I know Whitney ends up with him. When I first started watching I recall Simone being the evil little sister who was jealous of Chad and Whitney, but now I see that was her man! LOL! The original Simone is truly fabulous. Kay too. Just a dynamic duo and it's so sad neither continued acting. Going back to Chad, I wonder why Eve immediately was so worried about him. Strange when you consider how many years it took for the story to be revealed. Something hilarious, I had completely forgotten about Eve and Julian and they were one of my favorite couples. Ivy was having a party with the Russell's and the Bennett's and when Eve and Julian met they revealed that they had a secret past. I don't know how I completely blacked out on that lol. I look forward to seeing what the first sweeps period brings! I have up to either June or July 2000 and I think I'm ready to get more episodes. It seems like I have so far to go.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE Brandi. She's funny and does seem like a nice, entertaining person . I know she's probably a mess, but I think she'd make a good replacement for Taylor next season. I also love that she doesn't seem to be backing down. If you look at the promos and her first episode, I do see her doing anything I see people doing things to her. She's reacting. I don't consider her a bitch for that. I consider the other women bitches for not even trying. Lisa I understand, but Kyle? And TWO FACED TAYLOR? Taylor is sick. I can't wait to watch Brandi take these hoes down.

I thought Martha was going to be part of the cast this season because shekept tweeting about a New Jersey HW surprise. Now I realized that must've meant she was just friends with one of the wives. I wonder who. Kathy? Would be brilliant if they DID add her. Radar has an article saying they were casting new wives and that casting is complete. Hmm.... I wonder how the Jersey reunion will be considering they're already deep filming the next season. So confusing!

ATL is back November 6th. Replacing NJ. Promo: HTTP://WWW.BRAVOTV.COM/THE-REAL-HOUSEWIVES-OF-ATLANTA/SEASON-4/VIDEOS/THE-ATLANTA-HOUSEWIVES-ARE-BACK Maybe it's just me, but that looks very uneventful for what you know will be a long season. Maybe they should've tested out a couple new housewives to spice things up. Marlo, the rumored new HW didn't even get a "friend of the housewives" picture or anything, so my guess is that she's a bust. Hopefully that was just a teaser. Kandi looks amazing though!

Still am upset about the loss of Alex, but we'll see who they cast for the new wives.

If Cat joins I'd like Alex to remain since Alex and Cat are friends. In fact, I want Alex to stay regardless. I just think since they're going for money ala Beverly Hills she was let go. I don't think it had anything to do with her. It's a shame because she's grown so much over the years and is one of my favorite housewives.

I like that the fireworks seem to be starting at the beginning. It shows how versatile the season will be. I also wonder how things will change once Brandi arrives. She'll first appear in episode 4, but I thought it was later initially. I wonder if she got bumped up an episode or two due to the Taylor stuff.

Well those ratings are typical Beverly Hills numbers. It makes me sick that people go on and on about how big the show is, but it's ratings were never blockbuster, thats why everyone was shocked with the premiere ratings. It was lower rated than DC (which got cancelled...) until the last few episodes when it started building as the show got more exiciting. It's ratings then were on par with New York, but not the huge ratings of ATL or Jersey. Another reason I wish DC was given another chance. It was a good show that would've been easy to revamp without Michaele and it's ratings were good.

You mean the show lost 600,000 viewers or thats how many viewers they got? If that's how many viewers they got it's kinda shocking. I will say, Bravo needs to step up promotion. THey dropped it completely when the Russell thing happened which I think hurt them badly. Once the promo is back in order (and Watch What Happened Live returns!!) I'm sure it'll be okay. The show is brilliant this year! Cowgirl Kim was killing me. I'm living for her this season. She was so obviously on something the past episode and I was so shocekd that nobody mentioned it. You could see individual looks on peoples faces, but nobody acknowledged it with each other lol. I was shocked to see Paul mention it the next episode. And then episode 4 we have Brandi's arrival! So much happening so soon. Also, what do yall think of the rumor that Michaele Salahi has been kidnapped? They make it extremely hard for us to believe. Especially since in this case Michaele contacted police and said that she was fine, just having family problems (presumably with Tareq). If it's another stunt, this is the lowest of low.

Yes, but I believe Bryan Kirkwood wrote Hollyoaks Later that year. I thought Hollyoaks was still very watchable at that point. I tried early on for Marquesses, but haven't seen any of his fully developed stuff or the new person in charge. Never sounds interesting when I look online.

Yeah I'm not reading much that inspires me to work. Honestly, I don't even recall Lucy Allen being that horrific. I liked that she at least was the same tone as Kirkwood, she just told dull stories mostly.

Oh wow. A character I actually know lol. I didn't realize Rae survived so many writing changes. I'm kinda curious to see how the show is now. I may start with Later and go from there.