9 hours ago, titan1978 said:

I just don’t think she brings enough benefit to deal with the problems. The show will look good, certainly the lighting will have some variety. She used to have mostly good instincts with casting. But at what cost? All she likes is misery. Not drama, misery. She had more to do with Stuart Damon’s firing than Guza did. For me, every storytelling instinct she has is bad.

That's fair. I am not necessarily advocating for her return lol. I tend to romanticize Guza/JFP's era, but I remember hating most of it at the time. I would still probably take Guza back and certainly Wendy Riche although I doubt either is looking for a long-term job at their ages.

GH is certainly very watchable still, but I think I despise Frank's run more than JFP's. They both are bad, but it seems Frank gets praised for his stale work. To me, GH gets by with being under budget and keeping the status quo going. No risks are taken at all. And while it seems like Frank is probably a nicer guy to work for he still hires his buddies as often as JFP did.

I would take the Guza writing team back by a mile. Not necessarily the Gooz himself.

I am not sure GH can survive in the current era without FV's budget wizardry tbqh. I would like to hope someone else is out there who can do the job and also be favored by most of the cast. I think he has done wonders for tributes to the elder and deceased cast, and I don't think that can be overstated given past mistakes from the JFP years. I think there are many things he does well. I agree many other elements are stale and risk-less. It took a network mandate to bring in a writer who shook up the show with what ultimately led to its current hottest story, and that was someone who clearly did not get along at FV's GH and was quickly excised.

So I also think I would prefer new (or at least different) blood if possible. And if that's not possible, then at least let Frank stop horning in on the stories and favored characters so much.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Vee

3 minutes ago, Vee said:

I would take the Guza writing team back by a mile. Not necessarily the Gooz himself.

I am not sure GH can survive in the current era without FV's budget wizardry tbqh. I would like to hope someone else is out there who can do the job and also be favored by most of the cast. I think he has done wonders for tributes to the elder and deceased cast, and I don't think that can be overstated given past mistakes from the JFP years. I think there are many things he does well. I agree many other elements are stale and risk-less. It took a network mandate to bring in a writer who shook up the show with what ultimately led to its current hottest story, and that was someone who clearly did not get along at FV's GH and was quickly excised.

So I also think I would prefer new (or at least different) blood if possible. And if that's not possible, then at least let Frank stop horning in on the stories and favored characters so much.

Yeah, I agree Frank does tributes quite well and does value his vets a lot more than JFP did. I would still say GH is the most watchable soap on air, although I don't watch Beyond the Gates. Things could absolutely be worse, but I think the show has the ability to be so much better with its cast and characters.

Guza's writing team would probably be better than the man himself. He would immediately move Carly, Jason, and Sonny front and center (if Steve returns). Guza just had the ability to keep things exciting. Sure, there were plenty of errors, but sweeps rarely disappointed. In the end I don't think Guza was a bad writer and had great ideas-I think he got burnt out and overstayed his welcome.

I know Frank is great with the budget, but I have to believe a new EP could cull the cast, still keep the same look and be in line monetarily. It's more depressing to me to think FV probably has this job until he wants to leave because certain characters will never be back, certain couples will never get back together, and certain characters will always be favored. Plus 10 more babies will be born lol. It's the same predictable cycle year after year.

I think there were a lot of things wrong with Guza's later work. I also think he did a lot of things well. I am not convinced he would frontline Maurice again today. He was quite infatuated with DZ/Dante on his way out. I do think he would blanche to see the state of Sonny, Jason and the mob lol.

And yeah, it depresses me too. EPs are meant to leave eventually. Eras are meant to come and go. But there is no sign that is going to happen here.

14 hours ago, titan1978 said:

No thanks, I think she is a toxic EP who has the worst tendencies. She does more damage than she brings positive things, and I don’t think GH would survive another tenure with her.

I don't. I believe she is a woman who operates in a male-dominated industry. But one thing I can say is whenever she was EP (I've only seen GH/Y&R live and some clips of SB), her soaps moved with pace and were not boring to watch. People b*tch and complain she hires her "friends", but everyone does that. Everyone else is called out on it, but because she is a woman, she is called out on it more, which highlights the double standards in the industry regarding gender and hiring practices. And I truly believe she's learned from those mistakes. I do. She runs a business and has a business mindset, which I like. Just in the same way, I believe she was given orders for Y&R and delivered on those orders (making it modern without the guideline of what the network wanted). What Frank does best (and even I think he's struggling at this point) is handle the budget. If it came down to Frank or Jill, I'm choosing Jill every single time. Without a question.

Ultimately, I'd choose a new EP over bringing back a former one, but given the state of GH and my belief that ABC is not as dedicated to it as some would believe, it's hard to name someone. I have thoughts but they're highly unlikely to happen.

Edited 4 minutes ago4 min by Liberty City

43 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think there were a lot of things wrong with Guza's later work. I also think he did a lot of things well. I am not convinced he would frontline Maurice again today. He was quite infatuated with DZ/Dante on his way out. I do think he would blanche to see the state of Sonny, Jason and the mob lol.

And yeah, it depresses me too. EPs are meant to leave eventually. Eras are meant to come and go. But there is no sign that is going to happen here.

I think Guza would immediately speed dial Vanessa, but perhaps not frontline Sonny. He would push Brenda and probably Jason/Brenda. I don't think Guza was ever a huge fan of Sonny/Brenda and preferred Jax/Brenda. It was more of a default than love to put them together. He prefers his own creations/couplings. I also think he would dump a lot of characters. He'd probably bring back Morgan though lol.

I wouldn't mind a more Dante focused show. Not Dante all day, everyday like 2010, but used properly at least. Plus, Guza would go for Dante/Lulu for sure and position Dante as the leading man instead of whatever he is now.

Just now, Liberty City said:

I don't. I believe she is a woman who operates in a male-dominated industry. But one thing I can say is whenever she was EP (I've only seen GH/Y&R live and some clips of SB), her soaps moved with pace and were not boring to watch. People b*tch and complain she hires her "friends", but everyone does that. Everyone else is called out on it, but because she is a woman, she is called out on it more, which highlights the double standards in the industry regarding gender and hiring practices. And I truly believe she's learned from those mistakes. I do. She runs a business and has a business mindset, which I like. Just in the same way, I believe she was given orders for Y&R and delivered on those orders (make it modern without the guideline of what the network wanted). What Frank does best (and even I think he's struggling at this point) is handle budget. If it came down to Frank or Jill, I'm choosing Jill every single time. Without a question.

You have points on Jill and I think she has done some good work. My biggest issue is that she appears to hate women and anyone over a certain age. I would prefer a woman in this male dominated industry to stand up for women not kill them off or fire them.