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1 hour ago, Khan said:

I agree, lol.

I'd never place Stephen J. Cannell in the same category with Steven Bochco, but I do believe there's a difference between the shows he was involved with before "The Rockford Files," and those he was involved with after "Rockford"; and the shows that came after "Rockford," including "Palace Guard," tended to be so lightweight and unambitious, with "Wiseguy" being the notable exception.

Yeah I can see that. I know Cannell gave us 80’s lore like the A-Team, Hunter, and 21 Jump Street. Entertaining but mindless popcorn flick style fare lol. 

Interestingly around the same period I enjoyed Cannell’s Silk Stalkings in its early seasons a lot on that CBS Crimetime after Primetime block. Like a sexed up tawdrier version of Moonlighting. Now that show Cannell created for Lorenzo Lamas however was downright embarrassing lol. 

Looking it over the 1991-92 schedule for CBS Friday nights was in absolute shambles, but I’ll save further dissection in the 90’s ratings thread. 

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Hunter was a great cop show, nothing mindless about that show.  Stefanie Kramer was the glue that kept the show going.. which is apparent once she leaves the show and the show tries replacing her twice with no success.

Palace Guard had the misfortune of being scheduled on a night where the target audience was not going to be home to watch the show.  CBS was in the mood for casting the opposite attracts male/female people in tv shows during the 1991 fall season.. since P.S. I Luv U had a somewhat similar concept except the genders were reversed (with Connie Selleca as the criminal and Greg Evigan was a cop).

Both shows were scheduled on horrible nights for CBS (Friday for Palace Guard and Saturday for P.S. I Luv U).

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2 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Hunter was a great cop show, nothing mindless about that show.  Stefanie Kramer was the glue that kept the show going.. which is apparent once she leaves the show and the show tries replacing her twice with no success.

Co-sign all of this. The show was actually a good cop show - and it needed Stepfanie Kramer. I think it's telling that the all too-brief 2003 revival ignored much of S6 and the McCall-less S7 and brought her back with Hunter.

2 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

Interestingly around the same period I enjoyed Cannell’s Silk Stalkings in its early seasons a lot on that CBS Crimetime after Primetime block.

I likened Silk Stalkings more in line with Hunter, but with bikinis. Male/female partnership with deep bonds solving crimes. Which seemed to lean even more into the titillation factor once it moved to USA after CBS canceled it. However, Stephen J. Cannell did not create Hunter and Wiseguy. That was Frank Lupo. But Cannell's production company was involved.

Cannell did create Silk Stalkings, which was his longest-running series at eight seasons!

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21 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The info on Palace Guard was posted in the Santa Barbara thread already before a separate thread was made. That was an appropriate place as Marcy Walker was on SB when Palace Guard came to be.

 

I had no idea that my choice to post it in the Santa Barbara thread would cause so much drama... my bad :(

Anywho, the reason I had put that content into that thread was because her filming the pilot for this show and it being picked up was the reason she ended up leaving the show.  So I had assumed that seeing episodes of the show could have sparked renewed discussions on that final Eden story.  Not only did it affect her character, but the whole fabric of the show changed with her departure.

In the future, I'll think twice about posting a link unless I provide context as to why I posted said link in that thread since some people might not get the connection.

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3 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

I had no idea that my choice to post it in the Santa Barbara thread would cause so much drama... my bad :(

Anywho, the reason I had put that content into that thread was because her filming the pilot for this show and it being picked up was the reason she ended up leaving the show.  So I had assumed that seeing episodes of the show could have sparked renewed discussions on that final Eden story.  Not only did it affect her character, but the whole fabric of the show changed with her departure.

In the future, I'll think twice about posting a link unless I provide context as to why I posted said link in that thread since some people might not get the connection.

No, this is not on you. It's on me. Just keep doing what you're doing. And, remember to breathe. 🐇🐰

 

30 minutes ago, Wendy said:

Co-sign all of this. The show was actually a good cop show - and it needed Stepfanie Kramer. I think it's telling that the all too-brief 2003 revival ignored much of S6 and the McCall-less S7 and brought her back with Hunter.

I likened Silk Stalkings more in line with Hunter, but with bikinis. Male/female partnership with deep bonds solving crimes. Which seemed to lean even more into the titillation factor once it moved to USA after CBS canceled it. However, Stephen J. Cannell did not create Hunter and Wiseguy. That was Frank Lupo. But Cannell's production company was involved.

Cannell did create Silk Stalkings, which was his longest-running series at eight seasons!

I have ALWAYS wondered what would have happened if the NBC affiliates had picked his soap instead of SUNSET BEACH ... 

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2 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I had no idea that my choice to post it in the Santa Barbara thread would cause so much drama... my bad :(

You have nothing to apologize for. Placing that link in the Santa Barbara thread was the appropriate place for it.The context made perfect sense.

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14 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

You have nothing to apologize for. Placing that link in the Santa Barbara thread was the appropriate place for it.The context made perfect sense.

Exactly this.

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2 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I had no idea that my choice to post it in the Santa Barbara thread would cause so much drama... my bad :(

Anywho, the reason I had put that content into that thread was because her filming the pilot for this show and it being picked up was the reason she ended up leaving the show.  So I had assumed that seeing episodes of the show could have sparked renewed discussions on that final Eden story.  Not only did it affect her character, but the whole fabric of the show changed with her departure.

In the future, I'll think twice about posting a link unless I provide context as to why I posted said link in that thread since some people might not get the connection.

Don't worry about it. I posted Marcy's TV-movie/pilot, whatever, Bar Girls, in there (I think). I always try to put stuff that actors made in the thread for the soap they were on at the time. 

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Palace Guard had a 2 hr premiere Fri Oct 18 1991.

It ranked #74 7.4/14

Competitition from 9-11pm

ABC Perfect Strangers #47 11.0/20 Baby Talk #58 9.7/17 20/20 #32 13.2/25

NBC Matlock 2hr 8-10 #28 14.0/26 Reasonable Doubts #62 9.0/17

FOX UFO Report:Sightings #74 7.4/13

Palace Guard was last in its timeslot for all 2 hrs.

CBS aired 2 more episodes before it was dumped for specials during Nov sweeps.

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