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Jason and Carly absolutely flopped in 2021, lol. The actors have been very open recently about how unpopular it was, and it hasn't exactly been a secret (to anyone but Liz Korte) that the actors have never had sexual chemistry for the last 20 years. The show derailed last spring when they tried it again - something I think Patrick Mulcahey should've gotten hazard pay for walking in having to attempt to redo as the pairing's creator, but without Sarah Brown - not only because it just doesn't work with LW but because nothing was working BTS. Then Frank and Korte put her with that dayplayer (Brennan) to give her something to do, and have fumbled about with Jason with Sasha who's half his age and Anna who should have nothing to do with him, and from there here we are.

There is no complex long-form story bible being played out on this show - anywhere, with anyone. There is no intricate slow burn couple. Jason and Carly are not laying in the wings waiting to happen and there is zero evidence of it onscreen, nor has there been for at a minimum six to eight months. It is not happening. As a result of trying to go back to that well briefly this time last year and flopping again, they just don't know what they're doing with either character period. Both Brennans are a triage/cheap stopgap pairing for Carly as a result. And the Jason stuff is just as bad.

27 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

LW and SB should see this.

Maybe if they just show the audience lots of fanedits it'll help.

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26 minutes ago, Vee said:

There is no complex long-form story bible being played out on this show - anywhere, with anyone. There is no intricate slow burn couple. Jason and Carly are not laying in the wings waiting to happen and there is zero evidence of it onscreen, nor has there been for at a minimum six to eight months. It is not happening. As a result of trying to go back to that well briefly this time last year and flopping again, they just don't know what they're doing with either character period. Both Brennans are a triage/cheap stopgap pairing for Carly as a result. And the Jason stuff is just as bad.

Exactly.  Carly, Jason, and Sonny are just floating along with no plan.  I am sure at some point they will just default back to Carly/Sonny.   Jason/Carly are not any sort of endgame pairing lol.

I don't know what the show should do with Jason.  It's creepy that Jason's two romantic options right now are either his ex-gf's mom or the girl his surrogate son knocked up. 

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56 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

I was tempted to say Brennan was Australian but from years of mistakenly believing Finola Hughes was Australian, I said maybe not.

Charles Mesure is a British-born Australian actor, so I can only assume the same about Brennan under his portrayal.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Exactly.  Carly, Jason, and Sonny are just floating along with no plan.  I am sure at some point they will just default back to Carly/Sonny.   Jason/Carly are not any sort of endgame pairing lol.

I don't know what the show should do with Jason.  It's creepy that Jason's two romantic options right now are either his ex-gf's mom or the girl his surrogate son knocked up. 

I just fell over, almost out of my chair laughing at the very idea of any complexity or long-form or show bible. However, I do believe that Korte is leading now, for the first time & liking it with Van Etten going along & just letting her make decisions. I also believe she loves Jason, Carly & Jarly. Does that mean something/anything IS going to be tried? LOL!!! Are you kidding?!! Maybe if I hadn't watched this show then MAYBE I might think that. The way they write, nyah, I just can't. However, I do have a strong appreciation that they have changed both Carly's & Jason's perspectives with regard to Sonny. 

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15 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't know what the show should do with Jason.

Fire him.

Am I correct in assuming Sonny and Natalia still haven't kissed? If so that is deliberate and can only mean Mo doesn't want it, they know it's unpopular and are regrouping or both. But hey, I am sure Frank thinks the magic of Sidwell and the Sidwell/Ramirez family dynasty will solve everything for another interminably boring 2-3 years so he can hold onto Eva LaRue.

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4 minutes ago, Vee said:

But hey, I am sure Frank thinks the magic of Sidwell and the Sidwell/Ramirez family dynasty will solve everything for another interminably boring 2-3 years so he can hold onto Eva LaRue.

Apparently. Check the GH March spoilers thread

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9 minutes ago, Vee said:

Fire him.

Am I correct in assuming Sonny and Natalia still haven't kissed? If so that is deliberate and can only mean Mo doesn't want it, they know it's unpopular and are regrouping or both. But hey, I am sure Frank thinks the magic of Sidwell and the Sidwell/Ramirez family dynasty will solve everything for another interminably boring 2-3 years so he can hold onto Eva LaRue.

Trump is president. I think interracial couples have been banned on the show. Sonny can only date Hispanic women. Natalia is his only current option.

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21 minutes ago, Vee said:

Fire him.

Am I correct in assuming Sonny and Natalia still haven't kissed? If so that is deliberate and can only mean Mo doesn't want it, they know it's unpopular and are regrouping or both. But hey, I am sure Frank thinks the magic of Sidwell and the Sidwell/Ramirez family dynasty will solve everything for another interminably boring 2-3 years so he can hold onto Eva LaRue.

The show has survived without Jason before.

I don't think Sonny/Natalia have kissed.  They just flirt a little bit here and there.  I can image Mo isn't terribly keen on it-if only for the fact that Eva La Rue is visibly taller than him.  Tbh, I don't know what story would appease Mo.  He seems to hate everything except the idea of Brenda returning.  Has he even liked a story besides Nixon Falls in the last decade?

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At this point I think Mo just likes naps and getting paid. Takin' it easy!

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4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

The show has survived without Jason before.

We did fine (aside from having to suffer through Cameron Mathison's Drew) this past time, and we can do it again.

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This is *very* oversimplified but ... per state and federal employment laws (as they currently exist before politicians might gut them in the future) ...
Those employment laws say that if someone is injured or ill or newly-disabled, and cannot do their regular job duties, then the employer should find them a parallel job working for the same employer.
For example, a contract employee is injured doing forklift work in a warehouse then he/she is reassigned to a new job doing office work for the same company.
I speculate that Disney has an internal corporate policy to do something like that if one of their theme park employees is injured.

I know they don't want to fire MB from acting on GH, due to his mental health disability, for example that he became suicidal during the months of COVID inactivity.   But can ABC/Disney find him something else to do which he'd find meaningful/fulfilling?  Disney is huge.  There has to be something he'd feel good about, in which he could contribute to life and find meaning.

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I really don't think Disney owes Maurice some unrelated menial job, though the idea of Mo working a forklift is sending me right now.

Maurice has been paid very, very well for decades. They are free to let him go at any time. It's not an industrial college or work release program. Do I think they will let him go? No.

 

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10 minutes ago, Vee said:

At this point I think Mo just likes naps and getting paid. Takin' it easy!

Probably.  It's not like he's even actively tanking the Natalia pairing.  He just clearly doesn't care and like the audience knows this romance is extremely temporary.

6 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

We did fine (aside from having to suffer through Cameron Mathison's Drew) this past time, and we can do it again.

I really used to think even if you loved or hated Jason that he drove story.  He is not doing that now.  Honestly, he had more interesting stuff to do on Days as Harris.

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1 minute ago, carolineg said:

I really used to think even if you loved or hated Jason that he drove story.  He is not doing that now.  Honestly, he had more interesting stuff to do on Days as Harris.

When I watched DAYS I agree: Steve Burton seemed to fit a bit more there than he has on GH in a long time. Hell, even on Y&R he fit more. But this tenure? I'm not hating him as much as I have in the past.

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I don't think they are keeping MB because of his mental health issues only.  I honestly doubt MB's employment has ever been in question in the last 20 years by TPTB at least.  If Frank or whoever wanted Sonny or Mo gone he would have been sidelined like the show did with KeMo/Sam for years before cutting the cord.

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

When I watched DAYS I agree: Steve Burton seemed to fit a bit more there than he has on GH in a long time. Hell, even on Y&R he fit more. But this tenure? I'm not hating him as much as I have in the past.

I think Steve is giving it more effort this time around.  

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