BTG: February 2025 Discussion Thread

[Contessa Donatella]

It has been pointed out to me that it was a punch not a slap. Duly noted.

 

[janea4old]

I wondered who Jan was. (Edit) Then I looked it up.  Jan's the name of Ashley's mother, the woman with the blonde wavy hair.  Interesting idea.

I agree with you that Mona is smart and might be more onto the scheming tendencies of Leslie, more than Leslie is aware.

Edited March 1 by janea4old

[te.]

I think they might've meant Caroline, who is Hayley's best friend at the office and maid of honor?

 

https://beyondthegates.fandom.com/wiki/Caroline_Lee

Edited March 1 by te.

[janea4old]

While you were posting, I looked it up again, and found that Jan is Ashley's mother, and I edited my post.

[te.]

Ooh, that makes sense. I tried looking over the BTG fan wiki, but yeah. A lot of names floating around. 

[janea4old]

Oh wow, I totally missed that.  Now I have to go back and rewatch those scenes in episodes one and five.

[te.]

I think that a huge part of the Martin / Smitty situation is that they're - or rather Martin - is trying to push themselves into a heteronormative box of being "Respectable Gays". It's an interesting storyline in itself and it ties into why Smitty is a "homemaker". I'm not sure if they'd ever go there in the current climate, but relationships not being a one-size-fits all would be an interesting route to go down but again, I doubt that would happen. 

But at one point I'd like them to at least adress that gay relationships aren't necessarily just something where one takes on the traditional "man" role and the other takes on the "woman" role. 

[janea4old]

Yes to what dc11786 said about Dani: "While her hatred and anger is justified, it is exhausting, but at least that seems intentional on Val Jean's part rather than the typical a character annoys you because the writer is out of touch. Dani is very well constructed" 
I especially appreciated the idea that this intentional (unlike some writers, LOL)

Edited March 1 by janea4old

[Planet Soap]

@te. I agree and I think your assment was fair. It is the first new soap in a quarter century so people are understandably protective of this going well --- especially amid all the undue hate the show gets.

It's OK for some people to say was one of the greatest first weeks ever and it's also OK to say think that viewpoint is an exaguration. As long as contrasting options are delivered fairly and respectfully and not dismissive of others, I'm okay

Again, Im a huge cheerleader for BTG, but I think it's fair to express what's working/not working from one's POV.

Edited March 1 by Planet Soap

[Contessa Donatella]

 

Okay, here's what's different. The first opinion is about the show. The second opinion is about the first opinion & those who espouse it. 

Obviously when people in good faith are discussing any reasoned, rational opinion about the show being discussed is fair game. No foul. But, when opinions turn to being about other people in the discussion, that is very different. In this example, using myself, I am being criticized for exaggerating, when in fact, IMO, I was not. I literally think this was one of the strongest launches of a new soap I have ever seen, in my lifetime & I offered several examples of other soaps where I watched the first episode/s. 

Santa Barbara had a fairly amazing start. Port Charles, if you recall, was so different it was actually bizarre, a primetime launch where among other things one of the new batch of interns used a 3/4 inch drill to perform emergency ad hoc brain surgery on Audrey. The City was basically just the next day after the Loving murders. Sunset Beach Meg moving from Kansas to this beach town where Ben was. Generations I saw but do not remember a thing, so def not memorable. I didn't see it but people say good things about the B&B first show. Passions, also did not see. 

Now, do any of these sound to you like I was exaggerating in the comparison I made?

[Liberty City]

I agree; this is my first-ever soap I'm experiencing from the beginning in real-time, but I've seen others (thanks to those who have archived such historic media), and I can say: this is the strongest first week we've experienced in daytime. They came out of the gates (excuse the pun) with their balls rolling, and didn't hold back.

[Contessa Donatella]

I wonder if it's true. Thanks for sharing it, however it turns out. 

[Maxim]

Well at least this time people are not asking others if they are "on drugs" because of their reactions. But yeah, I think I was the first one who said that this is the best week of any new show I've seen... and that was even before Friday. And I stand by my words. 

 

 

[Contessa Donatella]

LOL!! It's like when someone says, "Am I crazy or is blah-blah true?" Because whether you're crazy or not is irrelevant to the issue. 

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 It's just an expression, a way of using words.

Edited March 1 by Contessa Donatella

[BetterForgotten]

Back to serious matters….

I think Queen Leslie/Dana is going to kill Mona as I think Mona may be the first to uncover her plans and confront her. 

Mona - 

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