ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion

[Contessa Donatella]

Thanks for that correction. I have given up being surprised at finding errors online. So, all I need are 3, 7 & 9. 

[Contessa Donatella]

I do not know why you persist in posting abut other posters rather than the topic at hand. 

But, about your petty complaint, since we do not have an effective Edit function, sometimes quoting becomes convoluted. And, yes, we all do know that. Not news. Not something that just happens to one person. 

[DRW50]

That and the framing of what burdens they were to the men in their lives. 

[Contessa Donatella]

This is an excellent book that I own. I'm sorry I can't tell if there are restrictions on who can borrow.

https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781604737165/page/350/mode/2up

The survival of soap opera : transformations for a new media era

Publication date 2011

Essays by including: Sam Ford, C. Lee Harrington, Mary Cassata, Patrick Mulcahey, Tristan Rogers, Sara A. Bibel, Melissa C. Scardaville,  Horace Newcomb, Robert C. Allen, Nancy Baym,  Chris Scodari, Lynn Liccardo, Tom Casiello, Denise D. Bielby

[DRW50]

At about 55 minutes you can see auditions for Endless Love, including Chris Marcantel and Mark Arnold. 

Marcantel does look especially gorgeous here. 

Earlier at around 43 minutes there's a Glad Bag commercial with Gail Ramsey. Given that she was still on GH at that time I wonder how many viewers were watching and thought - "There's that bitch Susan."

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Edited 14 hours ago by DRW50

[Reverend Ruthledge]

You mean feeling like they were a burden to the men of their lives or the men in their lives feeling like they were a burden? Ironically, Robin only felt like a burden to Paul towards the end of her life. Up until then, she wasn't that way. Paul didn't look at her as a burden. Julie, also ironically, felt like a burden to Mike in her early days (and Mike felt that way about her) but that completely turned around towards the end of Julie's life. Mike wanted to get back with Julie but Julie desperately wanted to get away from Mike. Actually, Mike's behavior towards Julie said a lot worse things about men than it did about women. He led her on and used her for sex, was neglectful of her after they had a shotgun wedding when she got pregnant, was cruel to her and raped her during the marriage and it wasn't until she had a nervous breakdown that he started to feel bad about anything. From this storyline alone, I'd think Agnes Nixon was a misandrist instead of a misogynist. But I know that's not the case the way she wrote other male characters. I tend to think in individual characters more than the bias of the writer though. 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Always happy to talk about the golden days of GL. 

[DRW50]

Thanks for sharing more details about Julie. This does give more insight than just synopses. 

I have only seen a bit of Robin, but the framing of her after her miscarriage, how she is with Johnny and Paul, did feel somewhat slanted to me.

[Franko]

Was I seeing things, or was Robby Benson among the auditioners?

[DRW50]

I was trying to figure out if I saw him or if I saw Russell Todd in there anywhere.

[Tisy-Lish]

I'm pretty sure I saw Russell Todd in that clip.  

[Xanthe]

I have never seen Endless Love but I would say Russell Todd looked too handsome and buff here to be cast as a regular teenager.

 Was Tom Cruise in there as well?

[Contessa Donatella]

Endless Love is a worthy flick you might want to see, also fairly soapy. Here is a recent "interesting" pic of Russell Todd.

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I have a question for the two of you. Would this include things like the tropes: Kill the Lesbian or Rape the Lesbian?

 

[Franko]

Yup, that was a young Tom Cruise, who got the consolation prize of a smaller role in the movie.