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It's very confusing to me when I learn of or remember these details. I saw someone on Twitter asking why Sam wasn't more supportive of Ava as she is her aunt. Did they ever have a relationship along those lines? (I know they are biologically related)

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No, lol. I forgot that too. I can't remember Sam ever having a second of tolerance for Ava.

And yes, Nina was the (adopted) sister of the varnished wood effigy known as Nathan West - his bio-mom was Obrecht, Donna Mills' sister. Stafford's Nina used to constantly call him "Jay" (his first name was James) and fawn over him which drove me nuts. I had a very strong suspicion in 2014-15 that RC had actually intended for both to be stealth Cassadines given the connection he created between Obrecht and Thaao Penghlis' Victor Cassadine, and have Nina and wooden Nathan end up hanging out at Wyndemere and mixing it up with Nikolas and co. Small favors that didn't happen. But anyway I never cared about Nina and Nathan's bond, their family, etc. I do buy Nina caring for Maxie even more since Nathan's death, though.

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I really had to think how Sam was related to Ava for a few minutes lol.  Sam met her dad when she was in her 30's.   Ava after that.  I know soaps usually make insta connections because biology is all that matters, but I don't see why Sam would care much. 

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Wait so who are Nina’s parents if she’s Nathan’s adopted sister? That whole family tree was a mess to me and you unlocked a buried memory of Stafford saying Jay as much as possible. It’s actually funny I really only consider Stafford’s Nina and CW’s Nina the same person in name only. That was helped by the insanity of Nina and Ava ever being gal pals.

I genuinely forget regularly that Julian was supposed to be Sam’s dad. It didn’t help that KM and her onscreen dad looked like peers.

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Nina's parents are Donna Mills' pointless character Madeline Reeves, Obrecht's sister, and her late(?) tycoon husband. Madeline took in Nathan. But again, I strongly suspected given all the musical parents Ron was doing at that time (including revealing that Nathan was actually Obrecht's, which was only brought up maybe a year in) that that would've been subject to change to tie Nina deeper into the show. 

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I think it may have been the intent (or something like it) under Guza. But Frank and Ron came in with a clean slate and just didn't have the mindset for any of that or I suspect any knowledge of it - they just went for something pretty pedestrian.

As for the rest, I just don't think there's a chance in Hell that Ron Carlivati of all people revealed Obrecht and Victor had a past only to make them not have one if not two secret kids together. I think we were going to be subjected to Ryan Paevey and Stafford hanging around Wyndemere acting like Carlivati's 'new Cassadine generation' with little Nicolas Bechtel Spencer. Again, small mercies.

I also strongly suspected Ron had initially intended for Stafford's Nina to be the true mother of Kristen Alderson's Kiki, who Ava would have somehow stolen from Coma Nina BITD during their feud over Silas in New York, but I digress. My brain worked overtime in those days because you had to with Ron's deranged twists and needless add-ons. WTFever is going on with Anna Lynne McCord's "Abby" on DAYS right now is the same sort of situation - I think people are right that it's probably Gwen yet again.

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I'll be honest, I still don't understand the story of Nina's baby(ies).  I don't get how Willow and Nelle are her children.  It's extremely confusing so I would hope that there was a better (or at least more clear) version of that story.  I also often forget Nina/Ava's weird ass backstory over Silas of all people. 

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