7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think MB gets excited when he has a new love interest then gets bored when it progress on to an inevitable short lived marriage and disappointed when it doesn't set the world on fire.  I have always gotten the sense that MB is bitter and frustrated he could never make any pairing but Brenda or Carly work. 

He absolutely is. I remember him trying to make it soar with everyone from Kelly Sullivan to Jennifer Bransford and even KM lol, to say nothing of poor Megan Ward. (idk if he was ever committed to Kari Wuhrer.)

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

When Nikolas died the first time when Tyler left, Jon Lindstrom commented to Genie that the show really asks a lot of her compared to others, including himself. Tony Geary used to say she was only happy at work if she was practically bleeding for them.

It is a shame that she’s so solid for them, and people like Maurice and Tony had more power and took it for granted more. But then again, she at least had the guts to quit several times instead of just languishing and bitching about it.

Unfortunately for her, when she was free of GH other shows wanted her but they didn't do a good job at all of actually writing story for her characters there. The example of Diana Colville at DAYS is pitiful. Yes, they put her with John & she was a reporter, sure, but they didn't really write for her & then when she said she was leaving then they said to wait that they had this great idea for a story. She walked out the door.  

51 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think Vanessa was in contact with Guza in that period and signed for Lipstick Jungle or something primetime and it fell through.

A Jason clone is probably easier than a Brenda one.  They don't have to emote much and just have to be good at working out.

 

And in the case of Sexy Dexy be able to tolerate 7 different hairstyles in 2 weeks' time! That is a lot of extra time spent in the Hair & Makeup chair! 

1 hour ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

To be fair Maurice had a lot of good acting delivered in January. An actor can’t be on top of their game every day 

Okay, if you say so, but you're gonna have to remind me what they were! Sorry but I do not remember this at all. And, my short term memory functions just fine. 

I would point out one thing. In GH fandom you always find Mo & Sonny's detractors but it is rare to find anything but a lovefest for Genie/Laura! 

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CW a better actress than Vanessa? Wow.. 

 

or on 90210 and later Las Vegas… She showed a lot of range. No offense to CW (I liked her on GL) but no way is she better lol I highly disagree for the first time ever 😂 But I’ll give it to CW to work with all the horrible stuff the writers threw at her lately… But Stafford will always be Nina to me

11 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Unfortunately for her, when she was free of GH other shows wanted her but they didn't do a good job at all of actually writing story for her characters there. The example of Diana Colville at DAYS is pitiful. Yes, they put her with John & she was a reporter, sure, but they didn't really write for her & then when she said she was leaving then they said to wait that they had this great idea for a story. She walked out the door.  

And in the case of Sexy Dexy be able to tolerate 7 different hairstyles in 2 weeks' time! That is a lot of extra time spent in the Hair & Makeup chair! 

Okay, if you say so, but you're gonna have to remind me what they were! Sorry but I do not remember this at all. And, my short term memory functions just fine. 

When Sonny learned about Nina‘s betrayal… The Cyrus attack… Sonny asking Dex to kill Cyru and if he‘s with him. That was the Sonny straight from the 2000‘s back in the show. I do think that some of his mumbling and tiredness has to do with the bipolar and his meds. 

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

He absolutely is. I remember him trying to make it soar with everyone from Kelly Sullivan to Jennifer Bransford and even KM lol, to say nothing of poor Megan Ward. (idk if he was ever committed to Kari Wuhrer.)

Lol.  I remember when he talked crap about LV's Hannah like she was the problem.  Well, she was, but she was the reason the pairing tanked.  Then again with the Angel pairing.  It was the actress's fault as well.  I don't think he ever liked the Reese pairing.  I will say he was quite good with Megan Ward, but that's really the only pairing in the ballpark of his main pairings and that was 15 years ago.

5 minutes ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

I do think that some of his mumbling and tiredness has to do with the bipolar and his meds. 

Do you happen to know what meds he takes? If he takes the old med lithium it could be so. But, if he takes any of the newer meds, it should not have that effect. So, he has options. 

He was right to tank Angel; it helped save the show. The stuff since he championed (other than Tamara), lol.

3 minutes ago, AMCOLTLLover said:

CW a better actress than Vanessa? Wow.. 

 

or on 90210 and later Las Vegas… She showed a lot of range. No offense to CW (I liked her on GL) but no way is she better lol I highly disagree for the first time ever 😂 But I’ll give it to CW to work with all the horrible stuff the writers threw at her lately… But Stafford will always be Nina to me

When Sonny learned about Nina‘s betrayal… The Cyrus attack… Sonny asking Dex to kill Cyru and if he‘s with him. That was the Sonny straight from the 2000‘s back in the show. I do think that some of his mumbling and tiredness has to do with the bipolar and his meds. 

I think CW is objectively the better actress overall.  Clearly I am a Vanessa fan and I think she's fantastic, but she relies a lot on charisma, charm, and star appeal along with fire chemistry with her co-stars.   VM is wonderful at playing Brenda, but CW would have slayed Brenda's breakdown scenes in 1997-98 and Vanessa did whatever she did.  They are both great, but CW just has a bit more range.  And to be honest, I always thought Vanessa just played slightly different versions of Brenda on every show/movie she was on.   That doesn't mean I don't love her or can't name 100 scenes that VM/Brenda did that were amazing.   I just think popularity, appeal and chemistry are different than actual acting skills.   Vanessa beats Cynthia is the former, but not the latter.

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think CW is objectively the better actress overall.  Clearly I am a Vanessa fan and I think she's fantastic, but she relies a lot on charisma, charm, and star appeal along with fire chemistry with her co-stars.   VM is wonderful at playing Brenda, but CW would have slayed Brenda's breakdown scenes in 1997-98 and Vanessa did whatever she did.  They are both great, but CW just has a bit more range.  And to be honest, I always thought Vanessa just played slightly different versions of Brenda on every show/movie she was on.   That doesn't mean I don't love her or can't name 100 scenes that VM/Brenda did that were amazing.   I just think popularity, appeal and chemistry are different than actual acting skills.   Vanessa beats Cynthia is the former, but not the latter.

Personally I did not see Brenda in LAS VEGAS. 

4 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Personally I did not see Brenda in LAS VEGAS. 

I always did.  It was just a colder, bitchier, less emotional Brenda.  And let's be honest, Las vegas stretched no one's acting range lol.  I do love the show and have seen every episode at least 3 times though.  Josh Duhamel was just peak dreamy back then.

I am really not trying to slam Vanessa, my most favorite actress on soaps of all time.  I just think I can see some of her limitations.  

10 minutes ago, Vee said:

He was right to tank Angel; it helped save the show. The stuff since he championed (other than Tamara), lol.

I am not saying he was wrong.  He just did play the blame game for awhile on the love interests.  And I do agree about bringing Hannah in at the time was a huge mistake as well.  It was too much Brendaclone too soon.

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Victor Webster as Nikolas? 

 

16 hours ago, carolineg said:

Can you imagine GR in his wig and drag disguise putting the moves on Sonny? 😂

I can...which scares me.

 

15 hours ago, carolineg said:

I am surprised Jagger popped back up though since no one has cared about Jagger in decades.

Hence, the arrival of Trader Joe's Jagger. 

13 hours ago, carolineg said:

Again, the problem with the Jagger recast is not his age.  It's not even the fact he's not as hot as ASJ.  The problem is that he is ethnically wrong for the part.  ASJ and AH are both technically white, but ASJ is much darker and Italian.  I don't believe Jagger is of any particular ethnicity as defined on the show, but it does seem a like it's whitewashing the character.  

Exactly.

8 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

Victor Webster as Nikolas? 

 

That's worthy of consideration. But, personally, I really like AdamH. I'm more interested in a recast for a 'somehow discovered to be alive' Spencer. Although I would stand up & cheer to have RKK back as Stavros! Speaking of male Cassadines ... 

21 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I always did.  It was just a colder, bitchier, less emotional Brenda.  And let's be honest, Las vegas stretched no one's acting range lol.  I do love the show and have seen every episode at least 3 times though.  Josh Duhamel was just peak dreamy back then.

 

Okay, so it wasn't great, elevated drama, still, they entertained me on a weekly basis & that counts! 

I do know what you mean though because I could always see Maura through Carly Tenney-Snyder but with Ava I do not see Maura. 

43 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Vanessa beats Cynthia is the former, but not the latter.

And Charity Rahmer beats them both.

7 minutes ago, Khan said:

And Charity Rahmer beats them both.

New month. Charity Rahmer is the new Gina Tognoni. 

38 minutes ago, Khan said:

I can...which scares me.

 

Hence, the arrival of Trader Joe's Jagger. 

Exactly.

I think ASJ being the kind of person he is really underscores the actual issue here.  Most people are fine with anyone, but ASJ and are overlooking the ridiculousness. 

13 minutes ago, Khan said:

And Charity Rahmer beats them both.

Obviously that goes without saying.