Y&R June 2023 Discussion Thread

[lucaslesann23]

With J.T. in 2018

[fivethej]

No-one thought of telling Summer about Nick being arrested. She has to find out from Michael who mentioned about Nick's arraignment.

What happened to the cop that escorted Faith to the airport? Was he working for Cameron or did "Jimmy" take out the cop and kidnap Faith, taking her to Cameron?

Edited June 10, 2023 by fivethej

[Planet Soap]

Late to the party but how do you all feel about revisiting Cameron.

[Liberty City]

I like it... but the wrong creative is in-control of it.

[Khan]

On the one hand, springing Cameron from prison and bringing him back to Genoa City in order to terrorize Sharon and her loved ones so more seems pointless since it's likely the story will be wrapped up and forgotten by the time I finished writing this post, lol.  On the other hand, however, even if Linden Ashby won't be sticking around for the foreseeable future, his abbreviated return still should shake up the canvas significantly; and I'm afraid that it won't.  Again, if his return doesn't impact the Newmans' lives for years to come, then what was the point of bringing him back?

[fivethej]

If this is anything like the original story line, someone else from Sharon/Nick's past is helping Cameron once again, as Grace Turner did joining forces with Cameron.

[Toups]

Guys, remember, if something hasn't happened on screen yet, use spoiler tags.  We also have a Spoiler Forum.  And if you're reply to a spoiler tag, use a spoiler tag. 

[Planet Soap]

I like that Cameron is back and causing trouble, and they don't have them trying to be reformed like Diane, which would be pointless and boring.

On the other hand, they need to raise the stakes and have Cameron either working with Grace or someone like Matt Clark's twin cousin. I don't know if this scene happened yet, but it would be interesting to see Mariah react to the man that killed her dad. Cameron's trouble needs to be methodical and impactful rather than just returned and crazy off the jump. 

I wonder if the writers worried back then that the Cameron plot was too similar to the Matt Clark/Carter Mills stories? I liked what of saw of the OG Cameron plot but it felt like randomly terrorizing Sharon just for some action.

Matt Clark's plot was more complex. Teen pregnancy secret, framing Nick for his shooting, coming back with a new face, the Tricia and drugs stuff and framing Nick for his death etc..

Overall, this is the most interesting thing Y&R's has done in years, and this is significantly better written than Sheila's return on B&B.

Edited June 12, 2023 by Planet Soap

[Antoyne]

Never even knew of this character but I’m loving the story. I’m a huge Sharon and Nick fan so this has been great for me, flashbacks included. Also Sharon getting out of the coffee shop and having a life again has made me so happy.

[Jeff]

+1

[fivethej]

 

I was thinking along the lines of Cameron, who mentioned to Nick in 2004 that he knew about all the men from Sharon's past, naming them all - Diego, Matt Clark, Frank Barritt. Cameron did some digging into the background of each man and somehow he came into contact with Matt's former best friend, Drake Belson. They compared notes and stories on Sharon/Nick. Drake wants revenge on them for what happened to Matt when he returned as Carter Mills and agrees to team up with Cameron.

Another way to go would be the return of Tricia McNeil, who has unfinished business and a score to settle with the Newman family. Tricia was a huge part of Matt's plan to frame Nick along with the Ryan/Victoria/Tricia triangle and situation.  Tricia plays the role of Grace Turner this time around.

Speaking of which, Cameron should also be seeking revenge on Grace Turner when she turned on him and ultimately helped the Newman family by testifying against Cameron, which helped put him in prison.

[DramatistDreamer]

Wardrobe comment- Sharon and Summer’s color pathways for their outfits were so similar in an episode last week, pretty much within the same color family. I mention this because there was a time years ago, when I tuned into the show and wondered why tptb had Summer looking more like Sharon’s daughter than Phyllis’. AL is at least built more like Phyllis but the styling of both Sharon and Summer in that particular episode stood out to me.

[Planet Soap]

With this whole Cameron thing, living on a ranch I'm surprised Sharon (or Nikki) doesn't own a gun. Victor has always been a more fist fighting and using his power kind of guy so that probably lines up.

[DramatistDreamer]

This plot hole of Chance et al losing track of Faith smh. 

[Taoboi]

6-9

 

I've been peeking in here and there and it sounds like the Cameron's return appears to be rushed. But...watching it...I found it's been keeping my interest. And I don't find it rushed. Perhaps it's the fact it's focused on Sharon...who needed something to do. Perhaps it was those awesome flashbacks for those who didn't see all the storyline...which I was one of them though I knew the story. I only wished they included a Nikki/Sharon flashback from their bickering days a la Katherine/Jill. 

 

In any case, I felt it's build nicely. First, the gifts. Then the reveal. Then the appearances and the town graudally finding out. Then the stalking...whether it was Sharon herself, Faith, Sally. And the creep factor build through every encounter. And finally....of course...Nick (looking puffy hot in that short sleeve shirt) vs Cameron. And now...Cameron framed Nick.  Heck, it's shocking me that I'm invested in it.

 

Something I CANNOT say for Giggly Heffa. Ugh at her arrogance. I do like the reveal of her being alive has been done gradually among the town. And I was YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS to see the return of Vengeful Christine. They can go right on back to bringing that rivalry back between the Bug and Phyllis. I have no sympathy for her no matter how they try to make one sympathize with her. I'm more Poor Daniel for having to deal with her.

 

The only good thing about it all is how it's setting up new dynamics within the Abbott family. The unraveling of the Summer/Kyle marriage. And I've been WAITING for Kyle to realize how long Summer knew she was alive. And I was happy to see that MM did not disappoint. I knew AL would do a great job so it was awesome. Meanwhile, you have Ashley taking steps to go against Diane setting scheme team (Jack/Diane) vs scheme team (Ashley/Tucker). And I've been enjoying the comedy of errors that has been Ashley/Tucker and the 'engagement.' 

 

Still fast forwarding through Billy/Chelsea.

 

Enjoying looking at hot Nate. But is that really Audra's endgame? Cuz rme.