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I like Brian he's been on the CBC like 3 times a week for the past year. He's not a FOX wannabe anyway!

On 9/2/2024 at 1:04 AM, Wendy said:

So, Megyn Kelly, irrelevant harridan desperate for the limelight, has apparently been interviewing men that claimed to have "served with" Tim Walz, calling him a "military impersonator", whatever that is.

Of course, the right is eating it up. But this crap has been debunked again and again. Makes me wonder if these guys were promised something or whatever.

 

As long as he's a  White/straight guy nobody cares about the VP.

7 hours ago, Vee said:

Two tweets re: the same worthwhile article, and I agree about what she's done.

 

Dump wants the VP to talk about race so bad and she won't go there!

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News outlets tend to focus on new material. While some outlets may be inclined to fact-check a false Trump claim the first, second, third or even 10th time he utters it, they are far less likely to devote precious resources to a claim on the 100th or 150th utterance – especially because he is constantly mixing in dozens of new lies that require time and resources to address. And so, by virtue of shameless perseverance, Trump often manages to outlast most of the media’s willingness to correct any particular falsehood, eventually getting that claim into news coverage and social media clips nearly uncorrected.

 

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The unctuous Jonathan Martin, increasingly seeing the writing on the wall, begins spinning out his GOP comeback fanfic for AO3. (The clear desire for their renewal is best viewed in the full tweets)

 

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A particularly hilarious dreamspinning fantasy of Martin's in the full article linked above: The idea that Biden can pardon both Trump and Hunter on the way out the door as a show of bipartisanship. He so badly wants a path out of the woods for the GOP.

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12 hours ago, janea4old said:

News outlets tend to focus on new material. While some outlets may be inclined to fact-check a false Trump claim the first, second, third or even 10th time he utters it, they are far less likely to devote precious resources to a claim on the 100th or 150th utterance – especially because he is constantly mixing in dozens of new lies that require time and resources to address. And so, by virtue of shameless perseverance, Trump often manages to outlast most of the media’s willingness to correct any particular falsehood, eventually getting that claim into news coverage and social media clips nearly uncorrected.

Yeah, it’s the reason why the NYT can repeatedly reference Trump’s full page ad requesting reinstatement of the death penalty especially for some falsely accused teenagers in their newspaper, while essentially abdicating their responsibility for publishing (and accepting the money) for said ad.

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The great moment here is at the end where Mike Barnicle, of all people, excoriates the media coverage for false equivalence and softening how Trump is reported. If it's on Morning Joe it has broken through.

 

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Jonathan Martin continues to whine about Republican attacks on Harris not connecting and offers coaching tips:

 

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4 hours ago, Vee said:

A particularly hilarious dreamspinning fantasy of Martin's in the full article linked above: The idea that Biden can pardon both Trump and Hunter on the way out the door as a show of bipartisanship. He so badly wants a path out of the woods for the GOP.

If it's long time in Jail i think Biden will commute it. He loves his Family so much.

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@Vee I read that earlier today. I was almost going to post it until I saw you already had. My main takeaway, aside from what you mentioned (and yes how pathetic that here and on the Sunday talk shows he is blatantly giving out instructions for the GOP about how to go after her) was his very revealing choice to share old quotes from Beltway darlings Tom Davis and John Boehner. They were never a tenth of what the elite press wanted them to be (IIRC certain sections of the press begged Davis to run for higher office for years and he never did). I still remember their cringeworthy profiles of Boehner at Politico and the periodic reminders that no, he's not mad at being dumped from power, he's doing just fine, thank you very much! 

Martin is a part of the GOP's past, and this past year or so has likely been a rude awakening that no amount of cozying up to MAGA will change that.

This is an interesting, if not surprising, twist. It especially makes sense with odious Tim Pool, who loves to talk about how we're near civil war. This group has also faded from relevance over the past year, which is probably down to losing some of their funding.

 

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For both threads, just media confirming the above on their own:

 

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I shouldn't keep repeating Nate Silver talking points here but even as someone who thinks the election will be razor thin or Trump could win, I feel like he's going off the deep end with his narratives - reviving that she will lose because she didn't pick Shapiro and adding that she hasn't "found another gear after brat summer."

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3 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 I shouldn't keep repeating Nate Silver talking points here but even as someone who thinks the election will be razor thin or Trump could win, I feel like he's going off the deep end with his narratives - reviving that she will lose because she didn't pick Shapiro and adding that she hasn't "found another gear after brat summer."

Nate's latest 'model' has been roundly mocked by serious pollsters and analysts. He is clearly doing Thiel's work, and has also become more and more of a GOP sympathizer particularly since COVID. He's turned into the high-end Trafalgar/Rasmussen.

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Just saw Laura Coates on CNN talking about Trump saying he doesn't think Kamala Harris is very bright and that she "loses her train of thought." I thought Coates' choice of words, referring to that as "the pot calling the kettle black" fell into a kind of both-sides trap.  The pot and the kettle ARE both black. In this case Donald Trump rambles nonsensically and I can't think of a time Kamala Harris has seemed unfocused or distracted. Come on, Laura, just point out that Trump is just trying a rubber/glue defense, or that with him every accusation is a confession,  and you'll be describing the situation accurately.

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