Y&R December Spoilers

[DeeeDee]

Given Lucy still exists it won't be easy to just erase the whole Pheila/Sarah/Ryder/Daisy/Tom debacle.

[soapfan770]

17 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Not necessarily.

 

She'll just be Jill instead of Nina.

 

Hey, then Jack could offer Hilary a job at Jabot to be in charge of relaunching a men's line forcing Jill to counterattack with a men's line for Brash and Sassy. 

[DeeeDee]

The story practically writes itself!

[ajsp35801]

18 hours ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

I am glad to see Fenmore's in trouble b/c that is a true story for many department stores throughout America. Now that everything is online. This is something I'd be interested in seeing panning out. 

 

I think I might come back once Sally's material starts airing. 

 

This could be a really good storyline. 

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

 

Hey, then Jack could offer Hilary a job at Jabot to be in charge of relaunching a men's line forcing Jill to counterattack with a men's line for Brash and Sassy. 

 

If Hilary gets  $500M from her divorce from Devon, why does she need to go under Jabot for a men's line? Wouldn't it make more sense for her to launch it on her own and sell it at Fenmore's. that could be a great tie in with Lauren and Fenmore needing it cause of the financial trouble. 

 

I know you guys like the Hilary and Jill interaction but I'm not impressed. Chelsea is already a designer. it's time to focus on building for the future. to that end, it makes more sense to pit Hilary vs Chelsea in the fashion world. But tbh, I'd rather see that role given to lily instead of hilary if the show wants to go there with rival fashion houses  

 

19 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Not necessarily.

 

She'll just be Jill instead of Nina.

 

I guess I see getting money as the entire point of social climbing. if you've got half a billion in the bank then what's the point of marrying for money? 

[DeeeDee]

It depends on how much she gets in the divorce settlement.

 

Jill got a TON of money in her first divorce from John but still felt (and was treated like) the underdog in business & her social circles which allowed her to keep her position as a social climbing vixen vs. becoming a Lady Of The Manor like Nikki did after she divorced Victor.

 

A better story for Hevon though is to slowly reintroduce the rest of the existing Chancellors to the canvas and have Devon happily share his wealth & influence with them (which would be a VERY Devon thing to do) which would cause friction with Hillary who would rather him apply his/their money to business interests/philanthropic causes she prefers.

 

That way you give them a genuine IN CHARACTER conflict that allows Hillary to still be somewhat selfish without being irredeemable and Devon to be warmhearted without being foolish (the bulk of their money would still be largely kept IN the family).

[MoTheGreat]

16 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

Given Lucy still exists it won't be easy to just erase the whole Pheila/Sarah/Ryder/Daisy/Tom debacle.

 

Did they do  a blood test  for Lucy?

[ajsp35801]

3 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

It depends on how much she gets in the divorce settlement.

 

Jill got a TON of money in her first divorce from John but still felt (and was treated like) the underdog in business & her social circles which allowed her to keep her position as a social climbing vixen vs. becoming a Lady Of The Manor like Nikki did after she divorced Victor.

 

A better story for Hevon though is to slowly reintroduce the rest of the existing Chancellors to the canvas and have Devon happily share his wealth & influence with them (which would be a VERY Devon thing to do) which would cause friction with Hillary who would rather him apply his/their money to business interests/philanthropic causes she prefers.

 

That way you give them a genuine IN CHARACTER conflict that allows Hillary to still be somewhat selfish without being irredeemable and Devon to be warmhearted without being foolish (the bulk of their money would still be largely kept IN the family).

 

That would be in character. but I can't see it going that route. they'll duke it out in court and a rivalry will ensue...that's if they allow Devon to interact with that family. 

 

I'm getting a good feeling about whatever they'll do. Mishael Morgan just posted a podcast interview she did where she says that the new regime really likes her character and thosee higher up have been pushing for Hilary and Devon to have bigger roles on the show. So we should see that and them more and more with Sally/Kay/Mal team. I think they'll give her character more layers. she spoke about recently filming very emotional scenes where she had to cry. 

[Fevuh]

Cane's affliction?  My God his story has been so stupid.  You'd think he had a heart transplant not an ACL replacement.  Having had one myself - this has been done really really REALLY badly.  You'd think he's a complete cripple.

[DeeeDee]

32 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

That would be in character. but I can't see it going that route. they'll duke it out in court and a rivalry will ensue...that's if they allow Devon to interact with that family. 

 

I'm getting a good feeling about whatever they'll do. Mishael Morgan just posted a podcast interview she did where she says that the new regime really likes her character and thosee higher up have been pushing for Hilary and Devon to have bigger roles on the show. So we should see that and them more and more with Sally/Kay/Mal team. I think they'll give her character more layers. she spoke about recently filming very emotional scenes where she had to cry. 

 

I'm glad you're getting a good feeling.

 

I've been watching soaps too long to be excited for any "plans" they have for actors of color. Especially these days.

[ajsp35801]

7 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

I'm glad you're getting a good feeling.

 

I've been watching soaps too long to be excited for any "plans" they have for actors of color. Especially these days.

 

You're correct. so have I. But, I don't think things can get worse for either unless they make them murderers or something. there is no where to go from here but up.

 

Their airtime has already picked up quite a bit and they've taken them  out of Neil's orbit. Both pluses. All they need now is better writing. 

[dio]

On 11/30/2016 at 10:11 PM, ajsp35801 said:

 

Last time hilary was talking divorce they didn't even consult lawyers. Let's see if this time is any different  I won't hold my breath  if I were you. 

 

They shouldn't have ever married them without a prenup. If hilary divorces him she will be rich. but then that defeats the purpose of the character being a social climber/vixen. 

 

maybe, this is how they're gonna 'fix' Devon? I think the HW said something about it being dumb how he's Katherine's grandson/super rich. Maybe, Hilary takes him to the cleaners and Devon goes back to basics... and Hilary will be the new big dog on the scene...

[DeeeDee]

Devon being super rich & Katherine's grandson isn't dumb.

 

What IS dumb is the rest of Katherine's family being off canvas leaving Devon (and rarely seen Jill, Esther & Nina) as the sole representation of the Chancellor family.

[MoTheGreat]

15 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

 

I'm glad you're getting a good feeling.

 

I've been watching soaps too long to be excited for any "plans" they have for actors of color. Especially these days.

 

I can't get excited either. Something big got to  happen for me  to return to Y&R.

[ajsp35801]

8 hours ago, dio said:

 

maybe, this is how they're gonna 'fix' Devon? I think the HW said something about it being dumb how he's Katherine's grandson/super rich. Maybe, Hilary takes him to the cleaners and Devon goes back to basics... and Hilary will be the new big dog on the scene...

 

So, it's dumb for Devon to be rich but okay for hilary to be? somehow Hilary takes every dime from devon although he had all his money before he even met her? Not half but ALL? I don't know, I just can't see Sally being this dumb. 

[DeeeDee]

1 minute ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

So, it's dumb for Devon to be rich but okay for hilary to be? somehow Hilary takes every dime from devon although he had all his money before he even met her? Not half but ALL? I don't know, I just can't see Sally being this dumb. 

 

I can see Sally taking Devon's inheritance from him because certain viewers find it "distasteful" that he's related to Katherine at all.

 

I doubt she would take it from him just to give it to Hilary though. (Jill would probably be the main beneficiary).