http://www.nbc.com/days-of-our-lives/video/weekly-preview-111813/n43262/

Not on Sammi's watch! Pretty funny. I really have no preference for where AG lives. Maybe I have a slight preference for Will and Sonny, since they are not the ones choosing to move.

What bothers me about this is that if this were Will wanting to move to California to attend college, everyone would EXPECT Gabi to be OK with Will taking the baby with him. No consideration would be given to her losing her daughter, but because it's Will, Oh, the tragedy! RME.

Edited November 16, 201312 yr by BadAddiction

What bothers me about this is that if this were Will wanting to move to California to attend college, everyone would EXPECT Gabi to be OK with Will taking the baby with him. No consideration would be given to her losing her daughter, but because it's Will, Oh, the tragedy! RME.

Yeah, I'm surprised the voiceover didn't say "A selfish mother wants to take HIS child away!"

Yeah, I'm surprised the voiceover didn't say "A selfish mother wants to take HIS child away!"

Well, it is pretty selfish to think you can just move away when you are sharing custody of a child. I would feel the same if the positions were reversed.

Yeah.

Both would be shitty to try and do it.

But this isn't about gabi being a. Woman. It's about her being a. Plot point character that people don't care about secretly plotting to take the child of a character that people love and watched grow up on screen away from him. Plenty of fans support Sami over any of the men in her life because the men in her life are like the gabi is to her will.

You may be right about Gabi being a plot point. But my gawd that description very much applies to Will also in spite of him being a legacy character that the audience has watched grow up. Outside of his Coming Out story, he has only and continues to only drive story for Sami. So, I guess it's just a matter of where you fall on the plot point character chain.

Edited November 16, 201312 yr by BadAddiction

Well, it is pretty selfish to think you can just move away when you are sharing custody of a child. I would feel the same if the positions were reversed.

Yes, it's selfish either way but I think if it was Will taking Arianna Grace away, the show wouldn't depict it that way at all.

Yes, it's selfish either way but I think if it was Will taking Arianna Grace away, the show wouldn't depict it that way at all.

And that's was my point. If the scenario were reversed, Will would still be portrayed as the victim of a selfish mother refusing to allow him to whisk his daughter away to their bright and happy future.

You may be right about Gabi being a plot point. But my gawd that description very much applies to Will also in spite of him being a legacy character that the audience has watched grow up. Outside of his Coming Out story, he has only and continues to only drive story for Sami. So, I guess it's just a matter of where you fall on the plot point character chain.

Really?

Will's stories may involve Sami, as they should, but id say he is the main focal point in most of his stories and scenes, and she is a supporting player.

Really?

Will's stories may involve Sami, as they should, but id say he is the main focal point in most of his stories and scenes, and she is a supporting player.

Really?

I guess it's all in the beholder, because Will may be the cause, but he's hasn't been the lead IMO.

The majority of days characters are plot points.My biggest issue for years now.

Really?

I guess it's all in the beholder, because Will may be the cause, but he's hasn't been the lead IMO.

Will is the lead, he just doesn't push story. Will is the heroic protagonist in all of his story lines, he just isn't a self sufficient character who can hold his own. He needs other supporting characters (Sonny, Gabi, Marlena, Kate, Sami) or antagonists (Nick, EJ, Stefano, etc.) to feed him story. He is no different than Belle or Shawn from the previous generation before him.

The majority of days characters are plot points.My biggest issue for years now.

I don't think it's that they are plot points, just that there are far too many stock characters who all fall into a similar bracket.

Edited November 16, 201312 yr by Skin

I just don't view him as a lead. And yes, I agree, he has to be supported by everyone, which is what I meant by the word "cause," i.e., a principle, aim, or movement that, because of a deep commitment, one is prepared to defend or advocate. Once life throws him a little difficulty, the Calvary - mainly Sami - rides in and takes over while he stands back teary eyed and wringing his hands. To me that's a plot point character to give Sami story.

Edited November 16, 201312 yr by BadAddiction