That doesn't make any sense because Daytime shows were not advertised during the SB.

People might have left the channel on CBS when they switched off the TV.

As for Broderick being promoted, JONNYSBRO, I've read several places (never a confirmed "news" type of source though) that she's happy being associate head writer and doesn't want the responsibility of being an official head writer. She already appears to have quite a bit of influence, so I don't think her title matters that much.

Unlike Kimmiemae, I am loving most of the stories on Days! In addition to Sonny/Will/Gabi/Nick, and how the other characters interact with that, I like the conflict and ambivalence Kristen is feelling about her revenge plot, Rafe falling for Kate (makes sense as she's similar to Sami in some ways), and the psychological tug of war between Eric and Nicole as Nicole fights her feelings. I also like the way the canvas is interwoven and how older characters such as Victor and Caroline have meaningful scenes. I don't mind EJami since I'm a new viewer and all the baggage is not as big in my mind. I think my only problem with the show right now is Chloe being so juvenile and desperate in her scheming for Daniel.

Looking back, Chris Whitesell is probably a better writer than he's gotten credit for too. I think he may be the reason the early Luke story was better than most of the later years, and that ATWT in general was better from 2005 through part of 2007; he left ATWT and then Passanante was floundering on her own writing plot-based, campy villain of the month stories.

Whitesell and Gary Tomlin's long history with Days also gives them understanding of the characters, which helps them a lot now that Days is a character-driven soap. Being character-driven comes from the top, it's not just Broderick or just the writers. Greg Meng was talking about it in an interview last summer.

Next week, I expect GH to go up again with Laura having come back. Days, I hope doesn't drop -- it may drop though because the Will story was not on Monday or Tuesday.

Edited February 18, 201312 yr by jfung79

People might have left the channel on CBS when they switched off the TV.

And then turned it on during the day and let it run while they were out of the room? That makes no sense!

And then turned it on during the day and let it run while they were out of the room? That makes no sense!

I don't have stats on it, but I imagine quite a few daytime viewers, and indeed TV viewers in general, are casual viewers. They turn the TV on and what happens to be on stays on if it's interesting enough. But they wouldn't have been on that channel if it wasn't already the channel that was left from last night.

Edited February 18, 201312 yr by jfung79

Whitesell and Gary Tomlin's long history with Days also gives them understanding of the characters, which helps them a lot now that Days is a character-driven soap. Being character-driven comes from the top, it's not just Broderick or just the writers. Greg Meng was talking about it in an interview last summer.

That's hilarious, and sad. I've watched Days since the early 80's and I don't recognize any of the characters as written by Tomlin/Whitesell. I despise what they've done to a show I once loved so much. But then, like you said, you're a new viewer so I wouldn't expect you to know any different. Regarding EJ/Sami, I find them vile and offensive on so many levels. I can't watch a show promoting rapemance. It's just not in me. I keep tabs on a few things that I do like via YouTube, but I refuse to give Days any ratings for that trash.

Whitesell and Gary Tomlin's long history with Days also gives them understanding of the characters, which helps them a lot now that Days is a character-driven soap. Being character-driven comes from the top, it's not just Broderick or just the writers. Greg Meng was talking about it in an interview last summer.

I'm gonna have to disagree with this. Tomsell stories are mostly plot driven. They don't take time to weave out stories. They only write for the characters they like, and not the main characters. The only character driven story is Gabi/Nick/Will/Sonny.

I'm glad you are enjoying Days though. I'm a longtime Days fan that watch no matter what. I will call the writers on their BS stories, but I still watch out of loyalty and love for the show.

I don't have stats on it, but I imagine quite a few daytime viewers, and indeed TV viewers in general, are casual viewers. They turn the TV on and what happens to be on stays on if it's interesting enough. But they wouldn't have been on that channel if it wasn't already the channel that was left from last night.

Than what's the explanation for the ratings the week before?

I'm gonna have to disagree with this. Tomsell stories are mostly plot driven. They don't take time to weave out stories. They only write for the characters they like, and not the main characters. The only character driven story is Gabi/Nick/Will/Sonny.

Yep!

I to love Days and LB is a big part of it!!! and I've been watching since 93

Remember hen B&B was the old people's show ALWAYS dead last in demos. All of the remaining soaps are close but I never thought we'd see Bell beating GH and Days. I actually thing RM and SF both leaving were good things. Ridge stopped being interesting long ago, and really just served as a prop for Brooke and Stephanie. While I love SF, her character hit a brick wall a long time ago as well.

I'm really enjoying the smaller cast and see so much new potential for the show. Brooke and Dollar Bill are hot!

What is up over at GH? They have so many characters just hanging on the margins with storylines that just pop up from time to time. I actually forgot Max was still on the show. It feels like RC/FV are putting together as many stories as possible with the hope that something catches fire. I'm glad that GH is doing better but a 2.1HH isn't great and I wanna see Guza-size ratings. If B&B can surge, so can GH!

People might have left the channel on CBS when they switched off the TV.

As for Broderick being promoted, JONNYSBRO, I've read several places (never a confirmed "news" type of source though) that she's happy being associate head writer and doesn't want the responsibility of being an official head writer. She already appears to have quite a bit of influence, so I don't think her title matters that much.

Unlike Kimmiemae, I am loving most of the stories on Days! In addition to Sonny/Will/Gabi/Nick, and how the other characters interact with that, I like the conflict and ambivalence Kristen is feelling about her revenge plot, Rafe falling for Kate (makes sense as she's similar to Sami in some ways), and the psychological tug of war between Eric and Nicole as Nicole fights her feelings. I also like the way the canvas is interwoven and how older characters such as Victor and Caroline have meaningful scenes. I don't mind EJami since I'm a new viewer and all the baggage is not as big in my mind. I think my only problem with the show right now is Chloe being so juvenile and desperate in her scheming for Daniel.

Looking back, Chris Whitesell is probably a better writer than he's gotten credit for too. I think he may be the reason the early Luke story was better than most of the later years, and that ATWT in general was better from 2005 through part of 2007; he left ATWT and then Passanante was floundering on her own writing plot-based, campy villain of the month stories.

Whitesell and Gary Tomlin's long history with Days also gives them understanding of the characters, which helps them a lot now that Days is a character-driven soap. Being character-driven comes from the top, it's not just Broderick or just the writers. Greg Meng was talking about it in an interview last summer.

Next week, I expect GH to go up again with Laura having come back. Days, I hope doesn't drop -- it may drop though because the Will story was not on Monday or Tuesday.

ATWT was good, and a few stories were actually great, between 2005-2007 when Whitesell was with the show and the ratings back me up with ATWT comming in at 3ed for 2007-8 season. I'm in the minority, enjoyed the show 2001-early 2008 and think all of the writers did a nice job. It was only after Whitesell left that the show went crash and burn. JP sucks! and Goutman was an idiot for not hiring Josh Griffith as HW.

I agree with your defense of P&G sponsoring, Eric83, but the reason ATWT and GL had "horrible ratings" was that P&G and CBS let them get that way. ATWT and GL were both doing alright in the ratings just a few years before they were cancelled. ATWT vied for No. 3 in the ratings at times in the early 2000s. ATWT especially could have been saved. Goutman/Passanante were allowed to linger far too long and killed the show with their plot-driven, campy, villain of the month nonsense. ATWT needed a good writer back -- not Passanante or Lethal Leah. Looking back, Chris Whitesell was probably vital to ATWT during the early Passanante era, which was decent, before he left ATWT. Carolyn Culliton is another one who could have been brought back to save the show. They tried with David Kreizman (who I like), but by then it was already too late.

The budget cut that killed GL was also implemented in a horrible manner and P&G (as well as CBS and the show itself) must bear some responsibility for the Peapack era -- there was nothing intrinsic to moving to Peapack that would kill the show, but the way it was implemented (bad sound, "slice of life" writing deliberately lacking drama) had more misses than hits for far too long. I liked GL to the end, but it could have been so much better.

+1

You are so right. CBS wanted to buy these shows in 2001 but PGP said no. ATWT did well during much of the decade and GL could have been saved. The Peapack move could have have been good with the right team. Also, GLs timeslot issues hurt the show with it airing in the early AM on the east coast.