So she goes for the most asexual man on the show, minus Kevin. I wonder if he will burst into tears and call her Sharon.

LOL

Another riveting show. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Adam snarking with Victor and Avery. Boring.

HOnestly its not that the show is bad its boring. They play out the same crap everyday.

And I know I should be interested in Katherine versus Tucker but I am not.

AS for Diane's murder, Y&R kills off a decent character in Diane and can't make her murder mystery remotely compelling. Now MW kicked *ss in her stuff before they killed off Diane but this story is such a laid egg.

This show desperately needs a reboot. I can't even enjoy the little things anymore like Noah and Sharon in a nice scene.

And Avery is a big waste of time. I know some like her but I find the character utterly pointless when Leslie was available. I guess I am supposed

to like her because of her snark with Adam.

Edited August 24, 201114 yr by JaneAusten

I always struggle with just how much input, or interest, MAB even has. It seems like she just lets Hogan and Hamner do whatever they want, unless she needs to pull a spite move (like the rumor that she fired Maura West to spite Sony for interference).

The show is just so barren. It's bad enough when someone comes in and ruins a show but it's even worse when they do NOTHING. They tear everything apart and then try to glue a few pieces together and hope no one notices.

ITA. I don't think they are even making the effort to phone it in properly. The office politics and spitefulness goes beyond childish and plays out like a game of Who's got the biggest cojones. I wish Sony would say that they do and ask that team to take a long vacation.

I don't even think, from the fan perspective, that it is even about not seeing our favs enough. I love Colin and Jill and want them onsceen more, yes, however I think that if Y&R had actual writers who cared, then the story and balance issues could be addressed. I'm so tired of hoping a scene plays out with meaning (even if it is Mr. Teflonman Victor Newman. So tired of the inconsistency and how characters just disappear in the middle of something important.

Edited August 25, 201114 yr by koalygirl

Sorry if this has been discussed already but i am just so sick and tired of Y&R having soo many slimeballs on the show lately. I'm talking about Adam Deacon and Ronan. These guys are the true definition of mustache twirling villains (Maybe more the other two than Ronan) I am getting so sick and tired of all their smugness and i just want them to die or leave town. Adam NEEDS to be killed. There was a time when i was kind of rooting for him to take down Victor but i'm sorry he as just as worse as dear old daddy. Deacon is just an annoying creep that needs to get his ass back to B&B where he belongs and Ronan i just want him to be a bad dream, and have Nina find her REAL son since i refuse to believe that this jerk is her son anymore.

That's the way it becomes on a Sheffer show. Any leading men have to be snarky and throw out bitter one-liners, otherwise they aren't real men. It infects the whole show. It's such cheap writing and so easy, that any effort at genuine conversation becomes a rarity. It's a crutch. You see a lot of fans praising the "snark" between Adam and Ronan, and the show can hide behind that and not have to actually tell a story or develop a character.

That's the way it becomes on a Sheffer show. Any leading men have to be snarky and throw out bitter one-liners, otherwise they aren't real men. It infects the whole show. It's such cheap writing and so easy, that any effort at genuine conversation becomes a rarity. It's a crutch. You see a lot of fans praising the "snark" between Adam and Ronan, and the show can hide behind that and not have to actually tell a story or develop a character.

It has become so sickening. We just can't have three bad guys running amuck on this show!!! I really find it hard to root for any character on this show! All the bad characters are now being portrayed as protagonists and all the good characters as the antagonists !

It has become so sickening. We just can't have three bad guys running amuck on this show!!! I really find it hard to root for any character on this show! All the bad characters are now being portrayed as protagonists and all the good characters as the antagonists !

It makes you wonder again where the stories are. There are no stories. People just sit around waiting for plot points. Sharon has been just sitting around in various locations for months on end. Who cares?

Holds head in shame....I like Adam/Ronan snark. But I can agree having these men standing around snarking at each other is lazy writing. I'd much rather see character development and real storytelling. All Adam does is snark all over town and seek revenge. And Ronan comes back crappy and cold to Nina yet he can spare a few minutes for his two bed lays.

Victor and Sharon scenes are ill. Dumb ass woman loves a man, any man playing her hero. Just free her ass and let's move on.

So Phyllis and Avery have a connection. Soon Nick and Avery will have a connection. Blah,blah, fight over Nick, blah.

Edited August 25, 201114 yr by Taiah

Holds head in shame....I like Adam/Ronan snark. But I can agree having these men standing around snarking at each other is lazy writing. I'd much rather see character development and real storytelling. All Adam does is snark all over town and seek revenge. And Ronan comes back crappy and cold to Nina yet he can spare a few minutes for his two bed lays.

Victor and Sharon scenes are ill. Dumb ass woman loves a man, any man playing her hero. Just free her ass and let's move on.

So Phyllis and Avery have a connection. Soon Nick and Avery will have a connection. Blah,blah, fight over Nick, blah.

If anything what I am seeing is Phyllis and Nick are beyond played out. I know their fans want to see a Sharon free romance for them but without Sharon there is no story for them. And they aren't Sharon and Nick, the epic romance which worked for THEM for a time, so you can't play that card. And Phyllis as everyones everything on this show is beyond nauseating. She has become Y&R's version of Carly Corinthos, the bad girl turned heroine who everyone can count on and solves everything. Well at least she;s not running to a man for help thats one thing.

Ronan and Adam are just vapid. Victor I can tolerate but I don't even get him anymore.

If this is Scheffer its lazy writing. I would love to know why he was so praised and won so many awards at ATWT. He stunk there and everywhere else

Holds head in shame....I like Adam/Ronan snark. But I can agree having these men standing around snarking at each other is lazy writing. I'd much rather see character development and real storytelling. All Adam does is snark all over town and seek revenge. And Ronan comes back crappy and cold to Nina yet he can spare a few minutes for his two bed lays.

I don't think it's anything to be ashamed of at all, and I'm sorry I wrote it that way. I just can't believe they brought an actor back solely for this purpose. It makes no sense to me.

Phyllis's hair ugh

Phyllis and Adam snarking

Oh goody I get to hear about Avery's background.

Oh and Adam hates Avery so of course they will be a couple.

Just so everyone knows we are back on Skye's murder and Sharon today not Dianes.

Edited August 25, 201114 yr by JaneAusten

Why do I care about Colin and Genevieve getting a divorce?

Oh boy. Avery is...

Phyllis' sister

Really, Maria? Really?

Ugh. The spitting at history of the show continues.