11 hours ago, kalbir said:

For whatever reason Bill Bell put teenage Victoria in the orbit of college-aged adults instead of building a teen group around her like he did with teenage Nick.

I guess it was more acceptable then for a young woman to get involved with an older guy (even desirable) than to have teen Nick with an older female.

The only older women who were allowed to romance a younger man were the likes of Katherine and Dina, who ultimately lost them to younger gals.

SEPT 1 1987

Character actor Karl Bruck dies

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Karl Bruck. a character actor known to daytime soap opera fans for more than a decade as Maestro Ernesto Faustch on the CBS saga “The Young and the Restless,” died Aug. 21 of cancer. He was 81. In addition to his role on "The Young and the Restless," Bruck was seen regularly on such TV shows as “The Fugitive.” "Star Trek." "Mission; Impossible," “It Takes a Thief" and “Love Boat.”

Today on Tubi I was re-watching the 1969 ABC TV movie "Gidget Grows Up" starring Karen Valentine. It was produced by Screen Gems which of course was the television division of Columbia. I noticed in several scenes that the background music was later used during the 70's & 80's on Y&R. I knew that Y&R repurposed a lot of music from the film Bless The Beast and Children which was released in 1971, but didn't realize some of the tracks the show used went back into the late 60's.

Karen Valentine really was the "It Girl" during 1969-1979 (along with Sandy Duncan). Her career seemed to wane when the 80's arrived. She was known for her cutesy, bubbly, perky personality and was mostly cast in comedy. She later took on some dramatic roles, but I think she was typecast. I would have loved to have seen her on a daytime or primetime soap.

Karen Valentine as Esther!

19 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Karen Valentine as Esther!

🤣. They could have had a running gag where her nose almost get slammed in various doors and dropping things as a throwback to her Room 222 days.

BREAKING NEWS: Karen Valentine IN As B&B's New Beth Logan!

2 hours ago, Khan said:

BREAKING NEWS: Karen Valentine IN As B&B's New Beth Logan!

Do not give Bradley ideas.

Did Nick ever tell Phyllis about Matt Clark?

8 hours ago, fivethej said:

Did Nick ever tell Phyllis about Matt Clark?

Not that I can recall.

The court scenes for custody of Danny, when Tim Reid lied for Phyllis and then later told the truth. What was the date (or approximate date) of the reveal episode when he told the truth?

The Recorder, Greenfield, Mass Friday, September 25,1992

Soap opera writer rules destinies

CHICAGO - Kay Alden's life is a soap opera. Really. As a head writer for CBS' The Young and the Restless," she helped capture its first Emmy for writing this summer. But, more important, she's helped decide matters of life and death, rule entire destinies and change the courses of lives — characters' lives, that is — when real-life circumstances require it. Contracts and storylines often cause characters' deaths or sudden departures from Genoa City, the program's Midwestern setting, she said. Sometimes, a villain becomes so evil he's beyond redemption and must be killed or imprisoned. But death isn't always certain in soap opera land. Like a cat with nine lives, characters can overcome the toughest adversity.

Take the program's David, wealthy Nina's greedy, murderous husband. Nina thought she'd shot him dead, only to team he had undergone plastic surgery, had taken on a new identity and started dating her mother. But David got his just rewards: First, "his surgeon carved the words "KILLER" into his forehead, and later he was fatally smashed in a trash compactor. "Garbage to garbage, we said," recalled Alden.

Some villains are just too delectable to kill. Take Sheila, who apparently died in a fire — only to sneak out alive. She's still playing the same role but is hiding out and creating more havoc on Bell's other soap, "The Bold and the Beautiful," set in Los Angeles. "In Sheila, we had a character people hated so much, but loved to hate," Alden said. "She was not redeemable. .... (But) we didn't want to put her in a mental institution or jail. And we definitely did not want to kill her.

Alden, who writes from her home, faxes her copy to the Los Angeles based program and discusses story lines by phone probably 20 hours a week with the other writers, including creator Bill Bell. She began writing for the 19-year-old program 18 years ago. Alden, 45, said Bell develops most of the story ideas and the writing team helps execute them. "We probably have a story line in mind six months ahead of time," she said recently.

Soap writers occasionally live to regret some story lines The character Victor, for instance, started out as a jealous maniac who locked wife Julia's lover in a basement cell — only years later to turn into a rich businessman and pillar of the community. "When the character of Victor came on the show, I think we hired him for maybe six weeks or six months," she said, noting the writers hadn't expected him to become a permanent, relatively good character. Unlike many of her characters, Alden, the mother of three, has been happily married for 13 years. Alden has enjoyed soaps since she was a child. "Literally, I'd thought since I was very young probably the neatest thing you could really do would be to be a soap opera actress," she said. "Being a writer is probably the best of all possible worlds: You get to do all the parts that way

Thanks for that article, @Paul Raven .

Damn, I wish Kay Alden was still involved with Y&R.