He has been that since around 2006. And it's only gotten worse.

Bergman's always been that way.

It's gotten worse since he divorced Phyllis.

They don't have to go down the drain that quick.

Exactly.

People said Liz( Chloe) storyline was shitty but she made it watchable. They putting CK as the next thing to watch she should be able to turn a shitty storyline into a watchable one.

Yep.

Emily O'Brien or Liz Hendrickson would've killed the cancer story.

If CK was black enough the black audience woudln't be leaving. The black audience wouldn't be crying for VR return. CK is lacking what black audience is wanting from a Dru or a Malcolm. OR to even CK blandness with hiring somebody else that have more fire.

Since you don't understand why to keep trying to understand. The black viewers like me said she isn't black enough to keep her own self interesting if she didn't have one of her white hopes. A black viewer like me say she isn't black enough to keep bland, boring Niel or Devon interesting because she also bland & boring. She would have been better off as some white person child this way she doesn't have to live up to what the black audience wants from a black character or as Dru & Malcolm daughter.

The bitch isn't black enough get over it. I don't care if you don't understand & don't care to understand. I'm tired of writers telling me who to except in a black role because the white audience who we are writing for.

What happen?

A black female like me can tell you to get a freaking life, who are you to judge who is not black enough, i happen to be a black Jamaican woman, who happen to have neices the color of CK and they consider themselves Black, we come in all sizes and colors, she may not be the ideal of what you consider black, but there are several "Black Sistah" of mine who consider her black. I am not a fan of CK but I find myself offended by your declaration. I am not sure what you consider black enough, but I would like you to keep your opinions to yourself when calling out what is black, and justifying it by saying you are black

As for VR I was a fan of hers, but as an employer I would not hire her back, her tweets are full of innuendo's if CK. PB and MS are blocking her return then why not name them, instead of the cat and mouse and the little games she is playing. She has only name one person so far and that is CK why not the rest. The rush to judgement has been incredible for otherwise intelligent people it seems VR has gotten the exact reaction she wanted, it has made other wise intelligent people react in a reprehensible way, calling people out on their race, their beliefs and assuming that one person with an agenda is speaking the gospel.

As of late though, it's either OTT with some and the others are underwhelming.

Indeed.

A black female like me can tell you to get a freaking life, who are you to judge who is not black enough, i happen to be a black Jamaican woman, who happen to have neices the color of CK and they consider themselves Black, we come in all sizes and colors, she may not be the ideal of what you consider black, but there are several "Black Sistah" of mine who consider her black. I am not a fan of CK but I find myself offended by your declaration. I am not sure what you consider black enough, but I would like you to keep your opinions to yourself when calling out what is black, and justifying it by saying you are black

As for VR I was a fan of hers, but as an employer I would not hire her back, her tweets are full of innuendo's if CK. PB and MS are blocking her return then why not name them, instead of the cat and mouse and the little games she is playing. She has only name one person so far and that is CK why not the rest. The rush to judgement has been incredible for otherwise intelligent people it seems VR has gotten the exact reaction she wanted, it has made other wise intelligent people react in a reprehensible way, calling people out on their race, their beliefs and assuming that one person with an agenda is speaking the gospel.

The bitch isn't black enough. All you black females who like this water down Lily are just like her watered down. I'm not backing down form nobody. My mother didn't raise no punk you better believe that. That bitch isn't black enough for me. & all those black viewerws that is leaving Y&R. Now what you going do about it. I don't care who you was a fan of. PB don't know what he's talking when it comes to racism maybe he should ask KSJ. How it feels to not get a storyline but come out once a month.

Maybe you can get all your water down friends to support this water down Lily.

Edited September 22, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

I have said my piece, I don't have anything to prove to you, it is sad that school yard bullies exist even on the web, one of the great things I have learned is that you do not have to keep engaging in one upmanship with the less intelligent, or you sink to their level.

I have said my piece, I don't have anything to prove to you, it is sad that school yard bullies exist even on the web, one of the great things I have learned is that you do not have to keep engaging in one upmanship with the less intelligent, or you sink to their level.

Now you going Bye! I'm going to cry. Not! Oh, you was being polite when you was saying get a life. I'm sorry my bad I took it the wrong way.

Edited September 22, 200916 yr by MoTheGreat

PB don't know what he's talking when it comes to racism maybe he should ask KSJ. How it feels to not get a storyline but come out once a month.

Yep.

I have said my piece, I don't have anything to prove to you, it is sad that school yard bullies exist even on the web, one of the great things I have learned is that you do not have to keep engaging in one upmanship with the less intelligent, or you sink to their level.

Precisely.

Yawwn!!

Thank God I can close this ridiculous thread because of the most ridiculous discussion about "not being black enough" and judging people by the colour of their skin.