Members MarkH Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I see furrowed brows, steely face...not the absence of emotion, but a certain resolve. "Okay, here are the facts, no bullsh!t". It is ludicrous for ANY of us, myself included, to try to plumb the depths of these tea leaves (mixing metaphors). Monday is the day to start evaluating, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I see someone who looks drunk and stoned. As if he didn't know where he was. And as if he doesn't care if he hurt the people he did. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 So true. And again, Sylph is love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bright Eyes Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Now we're reaching. I found him to be just stoned, but not drunk at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I agree. Too much time has passed for Mac/Billy to have some romantic love making scene. They are no longer teens, and today it's pretty much non-existent. People just want to fu-k as sad as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members MarkH Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 A question about this thread. Toups said monthly would be good. Even though we started in late June, should Alvin create a July thread, so we get on the monthly cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted July 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Thom Bierdz = Y&R's Ronn Moss. Anyway, since I started this thread in late June, we should just let it continue for all of July. I'll start a new one in late July or August 1st, if that's what everyone wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Sounds fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I'm worried that they're going to try to make this about Jill's selfish genes causing him to flee, while Katherine, who is now a long-suffering saint according to the writing of this team, is the beacon of light. I don't believe Jill would ever do anything like this to her family. I hope they aren't going to give her part in this story short strift. I don't think Phillip owning a bar means anything. Neil is an alcoholic and he owns a bar. Sharon's constant lies are all driven by plot and have done significant damage to her character in the eyes of many viewers, so I'm not sure if this is the road they should go down with Phillip. I think if Phillip returns and tries to act like he was doing everyone a favor, then many longtime viewers may feel like their memories of the show have been destroyed. If Y&R now has the ability to tell a long, emotional story, explore all the beats, and the fallout, then the story could work. If Phillip fully realizes the horror of what he has done to the people he claimed to love, especially his son, then the story could work. I hope this will happen, and it won't end up like a stunt they didn't have any followthrough for, like Jill and Kay being made mother and daughter (or being unrelated). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 Billy Miller did not get eating alive by Peter Bergman in those confrontation scenes over the affair. If you re-watch the scenes, Miller played it perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I thought so too! "Go ahead and hit me"...the tears.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 ^^^Eaxctly. He was supposed to e portrayed as sad, wimpy, and pathetic in order to make Jack's point. Miller was excellent in the context of his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted July 4, 2009 Members Share Posted July 4, 2009 I have been rewatching a lot of Lester's Jack Abbott, and they really were cut from the same cloth. Billy is still a boy-man. Billy is still a lost soul. I'm sensing that he may soon make the switch back into being a guy who tries to make right choices. It will be interesting to see if Miller can play "growing up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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