Friends, Romans, Countrymen -- PEACE!!! This thread is supposed to be fun. It's cool if people want to kvetch or if they want to praise.

Wouldn't it be funny if Brenda Dickinson were cast as Cane's real bio mom?

I don't know but I find it absurd to say that Jill's story is bad. Yes, we are suppose to laugh at her losing everything. I am enjoying it and Alvin huffing and puffing about everything wrong from the stories...to ..blah..blah..wont change my mind. I am so sick of hearing the same drivel!

You complain about ATWT all the damn time then lambaste others when they complain about the shows they are unhappy with. You can't have it both ways....

You complain about ATWT all the damn time then lambaste others when they complain about the shows they are unhappy with. You can't have it both ways....

Exactly, and if people are really happy with this show, why would my views on the show have an impact on that?

Is Martha Byrne the right age to play Victoria? I caught the last 5 minutes of GH and MB *killed* as a bitch.

MAB is wasting time and resources plugging up holes that didn't need plugging (e.g., it sucks that the previous regime rewrote history by making Cane the real Phillip III, but what was re-written was written. Move the hell on). Plus, MAB is not only making new holes, she's also making new holes in the process of plugging up old ones (e.g., bringing Phillip III back from the dead).

MAB is an overrated shrew. I'm glad that more people are becoming disillusioned with her and her fellow hacks.

BAM! Exactly!

Please post more, typoprone.

I don't know but I find it absurd to say that Jill's story is bad. Yes, we are suppose to laugh at her losing everything. I am enjoying it and Alvin huffing and puffing about everything wrong from the stories...to ..blah..blah..wont change my mind. I am so sick of hearing the same drivel!

I can see where people could enjoy the story. Only speaking for myself, I'm sorry that they've slighted Jill's losses. They didn't spend very much time showing her try to deal with Kay not being her mother. She's lost her money and power, which is what she has used for years as a shield. Imagine if Victor lost his fortune, his identity. They wouldn't have us laugh at him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Jill has a story. The story is basically true to her character and that's good. I know they need a lighthearted contrast to the heavy story about Cane/Phillip. I did love the Jill/Kay/Nina scenes. I'm not trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I'm only saying I wish they would do more to explore, from Jill's point of view, in a serious manner, what she has lost, and her struggles to regain her identity.

This is a discussion thread, the last time I checked. I offer a point of view that might be different from everyone else, but there's no rule against that. I will continue to offer my views on this show regardless of what anyone thinks.

Fair enough.

Oooooh, now I get to do it.

Soap Opera Network

Bringing. Drama. Closer.

Is Martha Byrne the right age to play Victoria? I caught the last 5 minutes of GH and MB *killed* as a bitch.

No.Way.In.HELL.

LoL

I like Byrne, but she's no Vicky.

Oooooh, now I get to do it.

Soap Opera Network

Bringing. Drama. Closer.

Choke on that kernel!

LoL, just kidding.

I don't think MAB is worse than LML only because LML seemed more disillusioned imo. MAB needs a good balance to all the negatives of her approach. There have been times under her that the show has been really good and to make it excellent she needs better balance. What is being highlighted at this point is the negatives of the show, there are fixes to be made but I don't necessarily think SHE IS THE WORSE thing for Y&R I just believe she needs better help

Choke on that kernel!

LoL, just kidding.

Exactly, and if people are really happy with this show, why would my views on the show have an impact on that?

LoL, dude seriously? Sometimes I think you're just posting to get a rise out of posters and entertain yourself. You post the same sh-t literally every day. One word to sum it up: Annoying.

You post the same sh-t literally every day. One word to sum it up: Annoying.

Then skip over my posts, if you enjoy the show, what I post should have no bearing on it.

I could say the same thing about other posters. Repetition is expected when the show feeds us the same stuff day in and day out.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I like Byrne, but she's no Vicky.

She's more Vicky than AH is. Heather Tom is the first & best choice but if that ain't happening, something must be done. Among the many reasons I'm unhappy about CE leaving is that outside of Heather Tom, he's the only Victor kid to actually have serious chemistry with EB. Josh Morrow/EB aren't bad together but not special and AH/EB are just flat together. Even if MM does have chemistry with EB, the show is missing something by not having that dynamic Victor/Victoria connection. There's something inherently great about sexist Victor coming to terms with a daughter who can stand her ground against him. If we can't have HT, we need someone who can hold her own and even challenge EB. I bet Martha Byrne would be more than up for the challenge.

Then skip over my posts, if you enjoy the show, what I post should have no bearing on it.

I could say the same thing about other posters. Repetition is expected when the show feeds us the same stuff day in and day out.

It's hard when you clutter the thread with your views.