Now that you all have seen the scenes of Engen in a dress as Sabrina (which is what I was referring to in that long-ass thread), what do you think?

I'm thinking I can't wait for this workday to end, and I've got to get HOME and watch it.

I'm thinking I can't wait for this workday to end, and I've got to get HOME and watch it.

MarkH, you better send me a private message (please, please, please) about what happens on Monday's episode because I am just dying to know! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

Also, I wanted to put this out there. What is everyone thinking about the Gloria/Jeffery/Jill stuff? Glo and Jeff are driving me nuts with Mary Jane thinking she is sleeping with Victor and then thinking she is sleeping with Paul. Like come on now. They are such bad spies.

I'm waiting for her to unleash and when she does, she is gonna tear Sharon apart (loved it today when she grabbed her) and she is gonna go after Phyllis for seeing Phyllis with Jack. Now, if she catches onto Gloria, Jeffery and Jill spying on her, Mary Jane is gonna go Patty Jane on everyone! :lol:

Looks like TGVN has unleashed two lunatics-- one sired and one hired. Can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Victor will probably not get any of the blame. He usually doesn't.

Also, I wanted to put this out there. What is everyone thinking about the Gloria/Jeffery/Jill stuff? Glo and Jeff are driving me nuts with Mary Jane thinking she is sleeping with Victor and then thinking she is sleeping with Paul. Like come on now. They are such bad spies.

I'm wondering if this is some kind of payback for JW by TIIC. Making Jill the third stooge in the Glo/Jeff escapades makes no sense, because she(Jill) may be a lot of things but she is definately not the cartoon character that G&J are.

I'm wondering if this is some kind of payback for JW by TIIC. Making Jill the third stooge in the Glo/Jeff escapades makes no sense, because she(Jill) may be a lot of things but she is definately not the cartoon character that G&J are.

Yeah, tell me about it. Some days I just wanna grab Gloria and Jeffery and slam their heads together!

I'm wondering if this is some kind of payback for JW by TIIC. Making Jill the third stooge in the Glo/Jeff escapades makes no sense, because she(Jill) may be a lot of things but she is definately not the cartoon character that G&J are.

This may be true. I'm not sure if they have an idea of what to do with Jill, at least not until the Phillip drama heats up. There was so much with the fallout of her not being Katherine's daughter that they skipped past. The days of her having a love interest or three-dimensional character have been rare for some time.

This may be true. I'm not sure if they have an idea of what to do with Jill, at least not until the Phillip drama heats up. There was so much with the fallout of her not being Katherine's daughter that they skipped past. The days of her having a love interest or three-dimensional character have been rare for some time.

Here is my hypothesis. Jill was trivialized as a "stooge" while her contract was up in the air. If need be, they could quickly send her off to the Caymans or whatever, on a "follow the money" trail.

Now that Walton has re-signed, I'm sure she'll be back to her regular station soon.

Sadly, it seems it may not go this way with MTS. Oh well, at least she's available to play B&B's Beth Logan....

Again after today, Phyllis will be the biggest idiot if she ever takes Nick back. I don't care how much "story" is left in that pairing. After she told Nick she's done wasting tears on him, she better stick to her ground. I do not want to see Phick 2.0, they're too ruined, and they suck anyway. Give Phyllis a real man...

Again after today, Phyllis will be the biggest idiot if she ever takes Nick back. I don't care how much "story" is left in that pairing. After she told Nick she's done wasting tears on him, she better stick to her ground. I do not want to see Phick 2.0, they're too ruined, and they suck anyway. Give Phyllis a real man...

I'd say your wish is granted...until November sweeps.

I don't see how Phick is anymore ruined (long term) than Sharon and Nick were 4 years ago or Victor and Nikki are right now.

I'd say your wish is granted...until November sweeps.

I hope it's a couple of years at least. I'd love nothing more than for this quad to take a back seat for the summer. I know that won't happen thanks to Sharon being pregnant and MJ lurking. But I've had enough of all 4 of them to last a good long while.

I don't see how Phick is anymore ruined (long term) than Sharon and Nick were 4 years ago or Victor and Nikki are right now.

They're all ruined to a degree, but since today's episode was Phyllis kicking Nick out, telling him she's done crying over him, and then Nick going directly to screwing Sharon, I hope Phick is done forever.

That whole marriage, Nick was never fully committed to her. Even during the Latham mess, Sharon still had a pull over Nick. If Phyllis likes the emotional abuse and likes coming in second to Sharon repeatedly, then let her be the idiot. That character is ruined forever if she goes back to that loser.

I'd say your wish is granted...until November sweeps.

You mean when the Phick divorce finalizes during November sweeps.

They're all ruined to a degree, but since today's episode was Phyllis kicking Nick out, telling him she's done crying over him, and then Nick going directly to screwing Sharon, I hope Phick is done forever.

That whole marriage, Nick was never fully committed to her. Even during the Latham mess, Sharon still had a pull over Nick. If Phyllis likes the emotional abuse and likes coming in second to Sharon repeatedly, then let her be the idiot. That character is ruined forever if she goes back to that loser.

And I think Jack is ruined forever if he goes back to Phyllis after she said straight to his face that she loved Nick more. In fact she's even said it again since then. I can agree that all of these people need to stay far away from each other for a good long while. Too bad that won't happen.

And I think Jack is ruined forever if he goes back to Phyllis after she said straight to his face that she loved Nick more. In fact she's even said it again since then. I can agree that all of these people need to stay far away from each other for a good long while. Too bad that won't happen.

I'm not calling for an immediate Phack reunion, I said I'd like to see Phyllis with a real man soon, hopefully a new character played by a great actor. I think Phyllis needs to be away from both Jack and Nick for a while. I think Mary Jane will be keeping Jack pretty occupied anyway.

I'm not calling for an immediate Phack reunion, I said I'd like to see Phyllis with a real man soon, hopefully a new character played by a great actor. I think Phyllis needs to be away from both Jack and Nick for a while. I think Mary Jane will be keeping Jack pretty occupied anyway.

And hopefully Sharon and Nick as well.