Hire some imaginative storytellers, MAB and company just don't cut it. Even LML wrote more for the Winter's and though her writing generally sucked, it's sad that her storylines had more depth for the this family than anything MAB's given them thus far.

This show has major cracks that MAB and her company just can't fix. I wish she'd swallow her pride and find a real soap storyteller that writes an exquisite long-term bible for her. That storyteller can HW the show, while MAB keeps her Co-EP credit and does her best to make sure this writer isn't being messed with by higher-ups.

I get these structural points. But do you have any story suggestions? Any plot or character recommendations? I'm sincerely interested in your (and everyone's) ideas. HOW can this group be fixed?

There's no fixing them. Just write for them decently. If they can get half the material that the other cast members do, then most people wouldn't complain as much.

Neil and Ashley would be hot. Especially if Dru would return one day. Last time she pushed her sister on Ashley's husband, and now Ashley has her man.

One last thing, I'll never forgive the person who gave us that horrible song during John's death.

What song? It was Josh Groban, wasn't it?

From the interviews, and actor's perspective it would be a crazy move to get rid of MAB for too many reasons.

First bring the show back to business. Then bring in Neil running Chancellor. Maybe down the road a Jill/Neil/Ashley triangle (Once Lane is disposed of).

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Give Neil some incurable disease and write a proper death, it's the only thing this current regime can do that might be compelling with this character so far.

Keep waiting for the blatant segregation to end on this show and for the show's Black characters to have any real depth.

They really need to get rid of Tyrant and Ana too, Devon as well.

I get these structural points. But do you have any story suggestions? Any plot or character recommendations? I'm sincerely interested in your (and everyone's) ideas. HOW can this group be fixed?

What song? It was Josh Groban, wasn't it?

Yes. It was awful and nearly killed those scenes. That and the ultrasound with Phyllis.

From the interviews, and actor's perspective it would be a crazy move to get rid of MAB for too many reasons.

I'm not saying get rid of her completely. She can keep her Co-EP credit while someone who wrote a really good long-term bible for the characters and upcoming storylines takes over the writing duties.

But anyway, I feel it in my bones that Steven Kent and Sony will force the Bell's out soon enough.

This current writing regime cannot write business storylines. Their idea of a business storyline is musical chairs as to who is the CEO of Jabot.

I just feel like MAB is trying to give the fans what they want, and in the end it can end up hurting her. She's trying to appease everyone. No one will ever be completely satisfied. Her only big mistake is the Winters.

IMO, this was one of the best scenes during John's death.

From the interviews, and actor's perspective it would be a crazy move to get rid of MAB for too many reasons.

First bring the show back to business. Then bring in Neil running Chancellor. Maybe down the road a Jill/Neil/Ashley triangle (Once Lane is disposed of).

I'm hearing buzz about Neil-Nina. Would that work?

I'd like to see Neil turn ruthless at Chancellor. Maybe Jack and Victor diss him one time too many, so he decides to show them. And wins. That might do it. But my fear is that it would be too much of a stretch for the Neil we know....

Yes. It was awful and nearly killed those scenes. That and the ultrasound with Phyllis.

I liked the Groban song...different strokes, I guess.

I have ZERO memory of Phyllis' ultrasound. Zero. She discovered she was pregnant with Nick's child just as John was dying? They did a "cycle of life" thing? I have zero memory of that.

Neil/Nina? That would be completely pointless given Tricia Cast limited stay.

I liked the Groban song...different strokes, I guess.

I have ZERO memory of Phyllis' ultrasound. Zero. She discovered she was pregnant with Nick's child just as John was dying? They did a "cycle of life" thing? I have zero memory of that.

They were watching their baby through the monitor. It was kinda tasteless. I don't mind Groban, but John Abbott does not need Josh Groban to be singing through a montage on his death bed. Something classier would have been nice.

Tricia and Kristoff knew each other long before either of them was on Y&R. They were both on The Bad News Bears, which lasted from 1979-1980.

But I don't know if they'd have romantic chemistry.

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I have ZERO memory of Phyllis' ultrasound. Zero. She discovered she was pregnant with Nick's child just as John was dying? They did a "cycle of life" thing? I have zero memory of that.

They did, which is one of the reason so many of us thought Summer would be Jack's. Who knows what this regime has in mind? I don't feel strongly one way or the other.

They did, which is one of the reason so many of us thought Summer would be Jack's. Who knows what this regime has in mind? I don't feel strongly one way or the other.

They killed so much drama by making that kid Nick's. Phyllis should have left Jack for Nick, while pregnant with Jack's kid. That could have fueled more drama for years to come. Latham is such a hack, Sally Suckass Moron-a wasn't kidding when she said Latham didn't write one long-term story projection when she joined the show.

They killed so much drama by making that kid Nick's. Phyllis should have left Jack for Nick, while pregnant with Jack's kid. That could have fueled more drama for years to come. Latham is such a hack, Sally Suckass Moron-a wasn't kidding when she said Latham didn't write one long-term story projection when she joined the show.

But now that Sharon and Nick seem to be headed back together it seems like they can get some mileage out of Summer being Nick's. Or they can let us know she is Jack's at some strategic moment in the future.

The show could work around TC's schedule. Neil/Nina could be a very fun couple but there's an embargo on Neil dating white women.

John & Cassie's death were huge mistakes. Not as catastrophic as Maureen's death on GL but mistakes nonetheless. If Lyndey Fonseca had stayed as Colleen (and I'm glad for her sake she moved on), the loss of Cassie would be tolerable. LF's Colleen was pure ingenue goodness. CK Lily has been ruined by making her the "new" Colleen. She was much better as the pretty but jealous friend of the ingenue princess. Lily with Kevin was incredible soap. Lily so desperate for Daniel she ran away with him was incredible soap. But Lily as the "princess" of GC with all the men in love with her is ridiculous. Lily's meant to be a good girl with a huge streak of jealousy and insecurity. Of course, that's who Chloe is now written, and that's also ridiculous. Chloe should have been a true psycho-gold-digger. Now she's a long-suffering wife. Blech.

Chloe should have been a true psycho-gold-digger.

<------- Hire Gemma Bissix to fullfill that role on the show!

She can play Phillip IV's evil English girlfriend.

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