Members MarkH Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 In principle, Y&R is dripping in legacy females (Colleen, Lily, Abby, Victoria, etc.). True, we did not see them all grow up. But, when cast correctly, that didn't matter. (It doesn't matter that we didn't see Billy grow up either). I fully acknowledge that killing Cassie was a HUGE choice, and very risky one. But in this case, I think it was TOTALLY worth it. This is such a deep rip in the canvas, we understand how it could have so fully f*cked up Nick and Sharon. So fully that the fallout is still playing -- in high crescendo (sorry...too symphonic?) today. TOTALLY worth it. That's just my opinion...not trying to convince anyone. But for me, it was a truly transcendent moment -- literally, one that made Y&R better than good -- GREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 The point isn't acting ability, having a character and actor grow up with the audience builds a special type of bond that most soaps don't have, It creates a certain familiarity that can go a long way. If Grimes didn't want to stay, they could have written her out without killing her. That way, they could bring her back whenever they wanted if Grimes wished to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 I never liked Nick or Sharon and had no real use for Cassie, but when she died it about broke my heart. It was embarrassing how I sobbed. Thank goodness I was alone. Watching the clip still makes me tear up after all this time. From that point, I had so much compassion for Nck and Sharon afterward. I wanted Nick and Sharon desperately to comfort each other and find their way through it together. I have never forgiven Nick for abandoning Sharon and turning to Phyllis. I still have a soft spot for Sharon, but I never want her back with Nick. What he did was beyond terrible. So for me, Cassie's death definitely changed how I viewed Nick and Sharon and it is one of the few deaths that has really had long lasting fall out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Yeah - he didn't deserve to go out like that, a jailed felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 That, and the Fisher family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 What do you mean? I'm fearing this is a Gloria dig! And yes, that earns a smilie. Totally spot-on correct! I HATED Nick. As he grew into family man, I liked him a bit more...but he kept screwing up (literally) with Grace. But Cassie's death, and grieving WITH her parents...totally changed my level of investment in and compassion for Sharon and Nick. He's trying my sympathy right now, though. I knew it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 That is so true. Right until the end I was expecting Victor's doctor (or something!) to save the day. Then when I realized it wasn't going to happen I started weeping (then my mother the non soap watcher came into the room and said "what the hell is wrong with you?" ). It's impossible to explain that kind of reaction to people who don't watch soaps. Now, I am never spoiler free because I don't want to be ambushed like that again. If I could change it, I probably would, but Sharon Case was perfect in those scenes and I am not a Sharon Abbott fan as a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 The casting for all of those characters suck, hence, partly Y&R has a big trouble with its next generation. Bad casting and even worse writing for them. Oh, well, not like this show is going to be around for its next generation to take over anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Yes, but having her die also reminds the audience how tragic life can be. It would have been nice seeing Camryn continue to grow up on screen, but four years later and her death is still affecting the canvas and viewers. I think in the end, the death itself worked nicely (not the best phrasing of words, LoL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Oooh you gav em an idea - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 TOTALLY. Exactly. I had no CLUE that Cassie was going to die. But suddenly, when the doctors were being so pessimistic with Victor, I turned to my fellow viewers and said "Oh my God, they're not going to KILL Cassie, are they? They'd never do that!" I still get goosebumps thinking about that moment. When Barry Manilow did that montage song ("I am your child") I knew what was coming. For DAYS I was gripped by the horror of watching her march to death, and nothing ANY of us could do about it. Because it was Cassie, it felt like a real personal tragedy. The montages clarified how long we'd loved her. Best. death. ever. (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ashley and Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Here we totally agree. Yes, exactly. Fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MTSRocks Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 Kudos to Melody Thomas Scott for putting that montage together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 31, 2009 Members Share Posted May 31, 2009 He's such a stuffed shirt d-bag. I don't know. I need a woman to humanize him again. I actually liked that Carmen Mesta helped him find his jazz side. But now...he's a philandering indecisive horndog...just like Nick. Are you serious? Really? It was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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