15 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

For a while there a lot of soaps went to the 'dressed in drag' plot for supposedly hilarious results.

 

And then there was Y&R, who took it one step further and had an African-American pretend to be white.

Edited November 21, 20232 yr by Khan

2 hours ago, Khan said:

And then there was Y&R, who took it one step further and had an African-American pretend to be white.

You mean like OLTL had already done? Or did Y&R not do someone passing like Carla on OLTL? Did they do something different? 

I saw where Y&R had regular writers back today! Congratulations! That's the first show, right? 

 

21 hours ago, j swift said:

Of course, you are referencing Dee from What's Happening (jk)

😆 One of my all-time favorite shows.

Mabel King would have been great on a soap.

@Donna L. Bridges Y&R and AMC didn't do passing storyline like OLTL. Rather, they had black characters going undercover in white makeup.

21 minutes ago, SFK said:

 

@Donna L. Bridges Y&R and AMC didn't do passing storyline like OLTL. Rather, they had black characters going undercover in white makeup.

Wow. I cannot imagine. How did it go over? 

32 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Wow. I cannot imagine. How did it go over? 

I do recall SOD features that looked back on these stories with cringe, but I don't know how they were received by the soap press or viewers at large when they first aired. I was a tween. Biracial, watching with a black mother and white grandparents, I'm sure the whole business resonated with me on some level. But thinking back, I can't pretend that I had any extraordinary socio-political reaction and I probably lumped Taylor pretending to be white in order to infiltrate a group of white supremacists along with other stunts like Janet masquerading as her sister Natalie.

In the Awwwwwww category, AW's best Sally & only Catlin 

 

18 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Wow. I cannot imagine. How did it go over? 

Neither I nor my friends were bothered in the least. This was many years ago and as upsetting as it may be for some people in today's modern audiences to accept, the portrayal of interracial relationships on television was frowned upon much more then. (Please, no hate, you have to understand the way it was in order to appreciate how far you've come.) 

The plot on Y&R involved a character played by Phil Morris (later attorney Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld.) I don't remember if he was a cop or whether he was just working with them as they tried to bust a criminal ring. Morris played "Tyrone" (IKR) who dated, and possibly became engaged to, the crime boss's daughter. Although Tyrone was initially using the young woman in order to gain access to her father, he developed feelings for her. I don't think she was aware of her father's criminal activities and was, understandably, quite hurt in the end as her affection for Tyrone was genuine.

I don't recall why Tyrone instead of a White man was chosen to go undercover.

What interested us more back then was that Tyrone, who was handsome, had a threatening-looking Mr. T.-like brother, more likely half-brother, called "Jazz." I think Captain Lewis' (Moses Gunn) daughter Amy was tutoring Jazz who couldn't read (again, IKR.)

Edited November 22, 20232 yr by China Jones
Added some words for clarity.

7 minutes ago, China Jones said:

Neither I nor my friends were bothered in the least. This was many years ago and as upsetting as it may be for some people in today's modern audiences to accept, interracial relationships were frowned upon much more then. (Please, no hate, you have to understand the way it was in order to appreciate how far you've come.) 

The plot on Y&R involved a character played by Phil Morris (later attorney Jackie Chiles on Seinfeld.) I don't remember if he was a cop or whether he was just working with them as they tried to bust a criminal ring. Morris played "Tyrone" (IKR) who dated, and possibly became engaged to, the crime boss's daughter. Although Tyrone was initially using the young woman in order to gain access to her father, he developed feelings for her. I don't think she was aware of her father's criminal activities and was, understandably, quite hurt in the end as her affection for Tyrone was genuine.

I don't recall why Tyrone instead of a White man was chosen to go undercover.

What interested us more back then was that Tyrone, who was handsome, had a threatening-looking Mr. T.-like brother, more likely half-brother, called "Jazz." I think Captain Lewis' (Moses Gunn) daughter Amy was tutoring Jazz who couldn't read (again, IKR.)

Thanks so much for the detailed explanation. And, don't worry, I am definitely not one to get a hate on! 

1 hour ago, China Jones said:

I think Captain Lewis' (Moses Gunn) daughter Amy was tutoring Jazz who couldn't read (again, IKR.)

I made a mistake, it was Brock Peters and not Moses Gunn who played Captain Frank Lewis on Y&R. Sorry!!

https://ok.ru/video/6990411205140

AW 11-13-1981

Reading the NYT article about the As The World Turns episode that was being performed live during the Kennedy assassination made me think about how weird it is that none of the long-running NBC soaps were effected.  Another World and DAYS both premiered after 1963, so they weren't on air during the crisis.

I'm trying to recall if Another World ever responded to national events within the story.  John Hudson and Cameron Sinclair were veterans.  Elliott Carrington had been a war correspondent.  And, they incorporated current events like the AIDS epidemic and Designer Drugs.  But, I don't recall if they responded to breaking news events like the Gulf War, Ronald Reagan's assassination attempt, or the Stock Market crash.

I know there were stories inspired by Watergate, and other events, but I don't remember any direct references to contemporary news from the world outside of Bay City.

Edited November 23, 20232 yr by j swift

7 hours ago, j swift said:

I know there were stories inspired by Watergate, and other events, but I don't remember any direct references to contemporary news from the world outside of Bay City.

Lol maybe 

Lemay swore up and down that the tape storyline was just a coincidence but ya never know 😂

In 1979, I think they made references to the war in Cambodia. Elliot was supposed to be covering it as a correspondent, and was “killed”, only to turn up alive on Texas. 

Edited November 23, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

On 11/16/2023 at 11:56 PM, chrisml said:

I always side eye recollections from cast and crew when they talk about storylines because a lot of time they get it wrong. Often, they even get bts stuff wrong because they're holding grudges, or they feel slighted. Or they praise a producer or headwriter who harmed the show. 

My favourite objective fact that an actor was 100% wrong about was John Considine writing in his memoir that he had worked with Anne Heche on his first day as Reginald on AW in 1986. Ellen Wheeler was still in the rôle when Reginald arrived and Anne Heche did not arrive until July 1987. (I don't think Anne started playing Marley until after Reginald's death, either.)

 

43 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

My favourite objective fact that an actor was 100% wrong about was John Considine writing in his memoir that he had worked with Anne Heche on his first day as Reginald on AW in 1986. Ellen Wheeler was still in the rôle when Reginald arrived and Anne Heche did not arrive until July 1987. (I don't think Anne started playing Marley until after Reginald's death, either.)

 

That's funny! Very funny.