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7 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Did he misspell Procter? 

I copied and pasted directly from the Kindle edition, so all I know is I didn't introduce the error. Looks like the book has it spelled correctly in 36 places and incorrectly as Proctor in only 4 places. Whether that was Lemay's error or some later proofreader I cannot say.

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16 hours ago, Xanthe said:

I copied and pasted directly from the Kindle edition, so all I know is I didn't introduce the error. Looks like the book has it spelled correctly in 36 places and incorrectly as Proctor in only 4 places. Whether that was Lemay's error or some later proofreader I cannot say.

Fascinating! With that ratio of correct to incorrect, I'm gonna guess proofreader error.

Teach me. How do you copy/paste from your kindle? 

Tom Lisanti's next book is going to be "An Oral History of Texas Starring Beverlee McKinsey." He says that there are many Another World stories and a few Ryan's Hope, Guiding Light, and For Richer, For Poorer stories included.

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28 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Teach me. How do you copy/paste from your kindle? 

Tom Lisanti's next book is going to be "An Oral History of Texas Starring Beverlee McKinsey." He says that there are many Another World stories and a few Ryan's Hope, Guiding Light, and For Richer, For Poorer stories included.

Cool. Any idea when it might be released?

Re Kindle, when I select text as if to highlight in the Android app, it displays an option to copy the text.

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22 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Pete Lemay specifically talked about Jill Farren Phelps as an EP. He sat in on the meeting when she pitched Felicia & John's affair to Anna Holbrook, Linda Dano & David Forsyth. He was quite impressed with her ability to sell them on her idea.

This is very interesting, Contessa.  I hadn't heard that anecdote before, although I was aware Lemay liked Jill very much and admired her as an EP.  Do you know who was the head-writer at that time?   I'm assuming the writer must have also been in the meeting, since they even invited Lemay (the writing consultant).

I do not dislike Jill as much as most soap fans do.  

12 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

This is very interesting, Contessa.  I hadn't heard that anecdote before, although I was aware Lemay liked Jill very much and admired her as an EP.  Do you know who was the head-writer at that time?   I'm assuming the writer must have also been in the meeting, since they even invited Lemay (the writing consultant).

I do not dislike Jill as much as most soap fans do.  

In 1995 the HWs were Tom King & Craig Carlson. And, as we know, Jill was not an EP who could keep her hands out of the writing. After King/Carlson Margaret De Priest came on board. 

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44 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Jill was not an EP who could keep her hands out of the writing.

Oh yes.  That can't be denied.

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Well, once again, YouTube has closed my account. Their reason, as stated by them, is that I have violated their standards in regard to spam, scams & deceptive practices. All of my uploads are either parts of soap episodes, or full episodes, or interviews & award show clips concerning soaps. There is no possibility even of anything being spam, or scams or in any way deceptive. I appealed, of course, Denied. So I have begun moving files to Rumble, where I am told none of this ridiculous business goes on. We shall see. 

To begin there, I have uploaded consecutive days of 1989 AW. These are disks I had long had & done nothing with & now have dealt with them so they can be shared. As such: 

https://rumble.com/v51xanr-another-world-8-24-89.html
This completes consecutive days of this soap from 7-28-89 to 8-24-89.
Another World.

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On 6/12/2024 at 7:18 PM, Efulton said:

We Love Soaps: So when you were asked to come back to ANOTHER WORLD in 1988, was the plan to be a consultant or the head writer again?
Harding Lemay: I don’t know what they had in mind, really. I was the head writer for awhile. And then there was a strike. And during the strike they hired some NBC people to do the writing. Then they fired me and kept the ones they used during the strike, and the show got worse and worse and worse. But even by then, when I went back, it wasn’t going to work. I could see they weren’t interested. They weren’t excited enough by what I wanted to do, whereas before they had been very excited about the ideas I had. Procter & Gamble were very upset by my book [“Eight Years in Another World”]. I was very harsh on them. Nobody thought they would ever hire me again. But they were in deep trouble, so they hired me, and forgot all about it.

I was no longer that keen on doing it either. I didn’t need the money. And then I began to be a consultant. And it’s very interesting, the consultant’s fees were very high. You’d make $2,500 a day. I had a contract that said I had to be paid for three days a week whether they used me three days or not. I did that on four shows altogether. What you do is sit in with the other writers, make suggestions, and try to help them work out what they’re doing.

What I don't recall though is Lemay being listed as headwriter in early 1988 before the writers strike.  I only see the credits from episodes and the stats from Sept till Oct or Nov with him being headwaiter,  unless he is messing up the timeline.  The Jan 88 episodes though sound like Lemay's writing especially with reference to the family history but I think Margaret DePriest was writing then. 

On 6/12/2024 at 8:22 PM, Mona Kane Croft said:

I won't argue about it, by Lemay did state in at least one or two interviews or articles that he was fired. He never worked with Swajeski.  She had been a scab during the strike and was released when the strike ended.  TPTB immediately fired Lemay (before any of his scripts had even aired, according to him) and rehired Swajeski , this time as head-writer.  Lemay and Swajeski were never on the payroll at the same time.  And it's likely they never even met, especially since Lemay seldom visited the studio, and was fired immediately after the strike ended.  

By the time Lemay was working on AW as a consultant, Swajeski was long gone.  He was a consultant on AW during the time Jill Phelps was executive producer.  

Lemay had submitted his storyline projections just before the strike occurred and those projections would have been for either 6-months or 12-months. And it was obvious Swajeski was using many of Lemay's plans, which was perfectly legal, since the production company had paid Lemay for the projections, and after he submitted them they belonged to P&G. Swajeski also introduced some of her own ideas during this same period.  Swajeski's focus was very different than Lemay's, and it's fairly easy to see when she stopped using Lemay's plans and went forward with her own ideas for the entire show.  Again, no interest in arguing on my part. So I've said enough about it.  

I believe, yes he is talking about Linda, because Peggy wasn't a nurse.  And the white nurse he mentioned was almost certainly Alice, because Linda and Alice became very close friends. 

Peggy was still on the show when Lemay arrived, and he even began to create a family around Peggy.  He introduced Peggy's mother, her sister Linda and eventually Linda's boyfriend Zac (I think the name was Zac).  But soon after the family was introduced Peggy was written off.  I don't know if the actress left willingly, or if she was fired.  After Peggy left, Linda continued to have a fairly large presence on the show for a couple of years.  Then she began to fade into the background and mostly appeared as a nurse when the show needed a nurse.  

Who's arguing? Just writing what I thought I recall reading in other discussions about his leaving in 1988.

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3 hours ago, denzo30 said:

What I don't recall though is Lemay being listed as headwriter in early 1988 before the writers strike.  I only see the credits from episodes and the stats from Sept till Oct or Nov with him being headwaiter,  unless he is messing up the timeline.  The Jan 88 episodes though sound like Lemay's writing especially with reference to the family history but I think Margaret DePriest was writing then. 

Lemay's hiring was announced by the soap press just before the strike began.  So AW was still airing scripts that had been written by the head writer that Lemay was to replace when the strike began.  Of course Lemay refused to submit any scripts during the strike, although he may have already submitted his storyline projections. That is unknown, because nothing written by the scabs during the strike seemed particularly Lemay-ish.  When the strike ended, Lemay began to submit his scripts and AW began to produce episodes written by Lemay and his team.  But according to Lemay, before any of his scripts were aired, he was informed that he was fired.  Nobody really knows exactly why TPTB hired Swajeski.  Perhaps they liked her writing style better than Lemay's; or perhaps they had never really wanted to hire Lemay in the first place (a la Jacquie Courtney in 1985); or maybe they wanted to punish Lemay for not crossing the picket line during the strike; or maybe they hired her because she had been an NBC employee; or it could have been something else altogether.   

3 hours ago, denzo30 said:

Who's arguing?

I didn't mean to imply that you were arguing.  I just meant that I did not want to engage in an argument about it, with both parties repeating, back and forth, what we believe to  be the truth.  I prefer to say what I believe and leave it at that (if possible), without either person needing to repeat his/her story, just to get the upper-hand.  And I'm not implying you were doing that either.  I just do not want to do it.  When I say I don't intend to argue, I'm referencing myself.  Not anyone else.

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Sheri Anderson was the head writer before the writer’s strike in 1988.  Right before the strike, John Whitesell was replaced as executive producer by Michael Laibson.  Shortly after Laibson arrived, Lemay’s return was announced.  The strike lasted from the Spring until September.  Lemay’s scripts aired until November.

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26 minutes ago, watson71 said:

Sheri Anderson was the head writer before the writer’s strike in 1988.  Right before the strike, John Whitesell was replaced as executive producer by Michael Laibson.  Shortly after Laibson arrived, Lemay’s return was announced.  The strike lasted from the Spring until September.  Lemay’s scripts aired until November.

It seems probable that Lemay influenced the return of Sharlene with her daughter Josie in June 1988. Even if there was a lot of vamping to slow down plot through the strike I think there was some Lemay at play.

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I was pondering a few items over dinner.

From the time Iris left Houston, until she returned to Bay City, did she, or Dennis, own a part of Alex Wheeler's oil company? (I forget which one was World Oil).

And, while I'm well aware that it was a retcon, what do we estimate was the timing of her affair with Michael?  Was it before he met the twins, or after he left for Hawaii?

Finally, what became of Michael's business, Hudson Enterprises.  Weren't they a tech firm?  According to AWHP it ceased to exist, but did he sell it or did it go under?

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26 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

It seems probable that Lemay influenced the return of Sharlene with her daughter Josie in June 1988. Even if there was a lot of vamping to slow down plot through the strike I think there was some Lemay at play.

Yes- the return of Sharlene and Josie was probably Lemay’s idea, as well as the Bennett Publishing takeover of Cory Publishing that started when Drew Marsden arrived in Spring, 1988, setting up the return of Iris as “The Chief.”  The minute that Vivien showed up on the Cory’s doorstep in September, you knew Iris was not far behind.  I suspect the arrival of Evan Bates (Janice Frame’s son) in  August was Lemay’s idea as well.

The ghost that looked like Kathleen that appeared to Cass and the teen phone line with Matthew and Josie in the Summer of 88 were probably Swajeski’s ideas.

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