Members sheilaforever Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 And you got every right to feel that way. I mean seriously: DAs on soaps are always either the biggest asses in town (Hi Rick Lansing!) or the dumbest/shallowest (Hi Scotty Baldwin). Now with Vail she's supposed to be this idealistic DA and then she goes after a core character on the show, with non-existing motive and this person most viewers share sympathies with locked up in a sraight jacket and sedated. A romantic heroine as DA is simply not working or there has to be counterpart kinda like Dave Kelley did it on THE PRACTICE where Lara Flynn Boyle always had a sinister boss or aggressive colleague pushing her into corners to make her redeemable. DAs either need to be villains or mere supporting characters. As it wasn't obvious enough a few years ago when Jeff Boremewell went after John and then was supposed to sizzle with Ash/Glo/Jill. Heather at Jabot was working perfectly but there wouldn't have been any storyin recent months, so they tossed her around. This kept her on the show but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhythmchyc Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 As Victoria needs a friend, Sharon, and Tyra. It was only recently that girl-power was reintroduced on this show with the super-group K, Esther, Amber, Mac, and Nikki (Chloe substituting when necessary). But there was a drought of female cohesion on this show for years, I'd say after Dru died and Lily and Colleen were re-recast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted April 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't know if anyone mentioned this possibility before, but here are my thoughts on who could be gaslighting Ashley; also with a few spoilers, so I'll put it in tags: Just a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 Nah. Nah. I don't think so. Unless the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AllAboutAngst Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 Yes! Yes! Yes! I'm not sure if they make a difference. I still don't like her as Mac at all, though I think I might have maybe seen a teeny spark between her and Cane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I like her Mac, I like her extensions. As for the spark...if you didn't see it, the writers made sure you HEARD it? Didn't you catch that part where Mackenzie talked about her trajectory as being more similar to Cane's than to Billy's? It is true, too. They both grew up fatherless, went on hunts for their parent, have "walked the earth". With Cane back in the bar, and Mac refusing to work for Chancellor/the foundation, they are both redefined as eschewing wealth and power. The problem is, the thought of another quadrangle (Cane, Chloe, Mac, Billy) makes me ill...even though I think it might be better than a triangle involving Lily. Also, what to do with Lily if she and Cane break up? Well, I guess that's why they're bringing in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted April 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 Another man sacrificed for Lily? Those poor suckers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I agree...but how else do you see it going down? You oughta replace that doorframe avatar with a bedscene avatar between those two . Or you could have my Adam-and-Rafe avatar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I SO agree! There isn't another interpretation that would work for the character other than being robotically determined to win her case - no matter the evidence. I really like VB. She should be a leading actress on this show, IMO. But the writers/producers can't have yet another heroine on this show - Lily, Ashley, Nikki, Kay, Vic-Boria and now Mac (this list of heroines is debatable, i know). They have her firmly planted in supporting, and supporting roles usually tend to be antagonistic, character-actor roles. Hence, we have this beautiful, charismatic actress being spat at us in the most unlikeable role. And many of us all have said they do Heather no favors with her crazy character logic (Justice for all, except if I wanna bang you). And the sad fact is, if they were smart, she could PERFECTLY fill the Christine Blair void (not that anyone is begging for this void to be filled). But you have to admit that Cricket was involved in many, many good stories as the voice of justice, and in a very likeable, compassionate way. If only Bloom's last name were Bell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I don't think Lily will be with another man anytime soon, not with LAME getting married soon. They wouldn't throw that marriage out this fast. Keep him the hell away romantically from Lily and "Colleen" that's all I ask. Those two kill anything they're next to. Friendships are OK, but nothing more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted April 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 I like this avatar. I'll change it some other day. I'm not exactly keen on the Adam-Rafe stuff, so no, but thanks. There are still some of us who wouldn't mind to have Christine back. But not every character can be a heroine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 We're vibing today, dmarex! I don't think it's Estella. It certainly still could be Adam, but I said Victoria earlier this week. Did you see her face when Victor accused Nikki? She looked embarassed, but also a bit guilty. Whomever used Ashley's credit card to make those purchases, it sort of implies it was a female impersonating Ashley to sign the receipt. Which brings me to my NEXT suspect (and I'd F***in LOVE this) if it was Abby!!! Abby really was messed up about Brad's death and she could somehow be avenging her father's death by keeping them apart, but i don't think Abby would stomache it if her mother had another breakdown and lost another baby. Which leads me to my real, REAL suspect - Colleen. Colleen knows all about Sabrina, and she hates Ashley and Victor. It'd be a huge moment for the character and would give her a And give JT ammo to get her off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dm. Posted April 30, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 OMG yes! If that would erase this version of Colleen from our screens it would be amazing. But for the sake of the Colleen that we used to know (and haven't seen since 2007) I don't want the character to be destroyed... but still, she could be doing it out of pain of losing her father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted April 30, 2009 Members Share Posted April 30, 2009 it'd be a neat twist if Adam and Colleen were working together. Remember that scene when Adam introduced his book - the only one to support the idea was Colleen....hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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