Apparently, Kristoff St. John (Neil, "The Young and The Restless") mentioned on his Facebook page that he is a member of and reads the Mediadomain fan forum. He has posted in the past as 'Moonboy.' Yesterday, Kristoff mentioned the forum and 'Moonboy' posted about Neil's character. It is rather laugh-out-loud funny if it's really him.

Topic: NEIL'S FALL FROM GRACE? I THINK NOT!

Topic Posted by: Moonboy

Date Posted: Wed Apr 29 21:37:48 2009

Additional Comments: After almost 20 years of utter dedication and being a fan favorite, one lousy story-line, and you're ready to send Neil Winters to an early grave. He is the last African American man standing in a world of white hypocrisy. His infidelities have cost him a portion of his dignity and self respect, but at the end of the day there is a great deal of nobility in his parenting and his manhood. This is the first and ONLY time that he cheated on his mate. That's not an excuse, but lets look at his track record. Was happily, faithfully married for over a decade to Drucilla.( even though he showed some chauvinistic colors towards the end of their tempestuous relationship) Has been a consistent role model and father to Lily throughout her entire life, even though his brother Malcolm is Lily's biological father. He has embraced Devon with the love that only a father could show a son, nurturing, guiding and mentoring him. Let's not forget, he refused Yolanda's offer to have sex with her, based on higher principles and morals. He might have shared a kiss with Alex Perez, (Malcolm's Fiance) but never went over the edge, acting on sexual impulse.

Neil has been a completely loyal, dedicated employee to both Jabot and Newman or close to twenty year, always living in the shadow of his lesser business counterparts. He has somehow used his brains, wit, and charm to stay one step ahead of the pack.

One bad choice... One very poor decision, to cheat on his newlywed wife and not repair a marriage that seemed destined for failure based on the facts. Neil, self righteous? To a fault sometimes. Neil pompous? At times, but I don't believe intentionally. It seems that Neil tries to do the right thing 99 percent of the time. i.e. adopting Ana, as the posters call her, The Singing Kid, but somehow he falls short. Why is that?

Because he is HUMAN! Just like everyone else. Just like each and everyone of the FLAWED characters that exist in the town of Genoa City. Just like YOU! How many times have characters cheated on each other in steamy, twisted, sordid love triangles over the years? Victor? Nick? Jack? Sharon? Brad? Nikki?

Neil's character beyond redemption? Nail him to a cross and crucify him? FOR WHAT? Did he commit a murder? Did he suddenly turn into the neighborhood child molester?

You had better pray that this heroic African American Man's man is rebuilt one step at a time, and finds vindication in the business world and happiness in love. Yes, it is true, he lost his true love, (Dru), became an alcoholic, (recovering) and almost lost himself in the process,. However, he bounced back, made some poor choices, and once again finds himself at the crossroads.

This character has been one of Bill Bell Sr's strongest male characters, rich with dutiful substance and purpose! He has been a role model for many young men, black and white, to strive for something better, and not settle for mediocrity. He has set the bar high for single fathers, especially single African American fathers. Let us rejoice his victories and commiserate with his losses. He will find his moral compass and once again find the redemption that he deserves.

Just remember, Barack Obama took the auspicious chair of the President Of The United States, and what a powerful message that is for all races, young and old alike, to witness the very FIRST African American president in our life-time. Let us pray that he never gets caught in any scandalous activities. Neil finally got his due with the CEO chair! (Would've preferred if he had started his own company... Baby steps!)

So remember before you posters claim that you will never look at a character again, hit the FF button, or stop watching the show altogether, that we do it for you! It is a drama, with the sublime and ridiculous in the same moment. You live with us day in and day out, for many years. We are part of your families, and I for one respect that. But don't shame us with such ill critique and hatred! If it's completely warranted and justified than i understand. It is our job to entertain you, even if we get stuck in a bum story line.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Moonboy

http://mediadomain.com/cgi-bin/netforum/y-and-r/a.cgi/3-172

WTF? Hahahaha...

Talk about reading too much into things...

It's all about that model. That mistake would not have happened had they decided not to prop Tyra even more.

Edited April 30, 200916 yr by dmarex

Apparently, Kristoff St. John (Neil, "The Young and The Restless") mentioned on his Facebook page that he is a member of and reads the Mediadomain fan forum. He has posted in the past as 'Moonboy.' Yesterday, Kristoff mentioned the forum and 'Moonboy' posted about Neil's character. It is rather laugh-out-loud funny if it's really him.

http://mediadomain.com/cgi-bin/netforum/y-and-r/a.cgi/3-172

WTF? Hahahaha...

Why Hahahaha? I'm INSPIRED by his passion. Maybe there is hope....

It was a bum storyline, and one (in part) sort of started by LML. Now the decks are clear, Neil is clearly on a reinvention path...there is someplace to go. I truly believe

Della Reese

is going to put some heart into this. Moonboy needs our help, I think... I'm upset at Neil for his infidelity, but I'm upset at Nick for the same reason.

If the show is no longer inspired by Neil, I'd let the character go. But it sounds like both the actor and the show might be re-energized?

Why Hahahaha? I'm INSPIRED by his passion. Maybe there is hope....

Passion is good, but his post is very over-the-top, in my opinion.

Passion is good, but his post is very over-the-top, in my opinion.

I see what you mean, but I think he is fighting for his job here.

He saw what happened to Don Diamont.

I also like that he sees Neil in some ways as I do, and he's fighting for the integrity of that through all the sh!t that's been thrown at this character the last few years. There is a pride and dignity here...he's fighting for Neil, and himself, and he realizes that Neil has again (sigh) become a sort of last standard barrier for the shreds of one of the last well-conceived African American families on daytime....

It might be over the top, but it conveys a VERY different impression than the "phoning it in" ("doesn't come to work prepared') that Nia Peeples implied. If he's fighting and willing to fight, and he's reinvogorated by his story and character, I'll be there with him.

Passion is good, but his post is very over-the-top, in my opinion.

I'd much rather have an actor whose passion goes over-the-top sometimes, than one who doesn't care at all.

I'd much rather have an actor whose passion goes over-the-top sometimes, than one who doesn't care at all.

Amen! Of course, when it veers into controlling things (the color the walls, lines you refuse to say) it can get difficult...

But that is not what I'm reading here. What I see is an actor who realizes the damage that has been done to his character but -- in his mind -- sees the "phoenix" arc for Neil. And he is asking us to be patient and trusting that redemption is coming.

I agree with dmarex, though. If we're doing "clean slate", we really do need to free Neil from Tyra and the "Singing Kid".

I'm not sure that I believe it's him. If it is, well... I'm a big fan of actors keeping it real. If that means that some of them are going to go all "Christian Bale" every now and then, so be it.

Apparently, Kristoff St. John (Neil, "The Young and The Restless") mentioned on his Facebook page that he is a member of and reads the Mediadomain fan forum. He has posted in the past as 'Moonboy.' Yesterday, Kristoff mentioned the forum and 'Moonboy' posted about Neil's character. It is rather laugh-out-loud funny if it's really him.

http://mediadomain.com/cgi-bin/netforum/y-and-r/a.cgi/3-172

WTF? Hahahaha...

God I wish it could be verified if it really is.....

Good read, thanx for posting

If KSJ is the author of this rant then --IMO he is truly deluded. Yes, there are several fan forums who are anti-Kneel(as he is called)and then there are others who have analyzed and dissected the character very effectively. There was a conversation on this very site last week that fit that bill perfectly.

The fans have grown tired of "Go along to get along Neil" (I know I have) and seem to be saying to TIIC -- MEND him or END him.

If it's him, then he should have said it was him. Until then, it's just more gossip.