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I am not a fan of MAB but I have to say that Marge/Katherine 2008 was the BEST storyline on soaps in 10 years. But it soon went in directions that were really stupid. It is always tough in a film on how to end the movie, that;s what that storyline reminded me of. But for the 1st 3/4 of it, i felt like I was watching Bill Bell's work. The rest of the show was a bore though..

And, BINGO Toups on your storyline choices..

I find Maria's show very cold, clinical, slow, and not in a good way. There is an understate-edness about the stories, sluggishness. And all of these big events heavily promoted since the Latham days- the garage collapse, the Sabrina/David Chow accident- I am always strangely disappointed, everything comes off too subdued for my tastes.

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I agree about the baby switching part.. but the death of John Abbott? The man had his FIRST heart attack 25 years ago, jsut how long was the old geezer supposed to live? I agree that JS had writtne John Abbott into a corner, if I were LML, I would have done the same thing. HOWEVER, the intital lfush of LML's reign was good, when Kay Alden was still there to reign her in. When Kay Alden left, it went to hell on the concorde.

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I'm really torn on this. Part of me agrees with DeeeDee, that Jerry shoudl have been a part of the canvas for as long as JD wanted to remain active. But on the other hand, I do think it did great things for the character of Jack. Alastair? Bad idea - never should have been done. But Jack/Ashley/Billy now having to make decisions (sometimes bad ones) without the consultation of their dear old dad is fascinating to me, as they struggle through their lives.

Honestly, as long as they continue to keep John "alive" in the sense that it's difficult for the Abbott kids to always do the right thing, then I guess I'm okay with the decision to kill John. It was heart-breaking and tragic. It sucks, but hey - it's death. Sometimes it comes out of left field, doesn't make any sense, and leaves a long-lasting wound that never really heals. And that in and of itself is an interesting story.

But then again - oh, how I miss John Abbott...

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Well, I kind of agree with bellcurve: she didn't really swallow it and it's not that she is not strong enough. She was just given bad material. She and Michael need to be split ASAP and Lauren needs to be turned into a temptress, husband-stealer and all-round sexual velociraptor — a menace, a lethal combination of beauty and ruthlessness which you just cannot resist. Today.

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I don't think it was horrible, I think it was realistic, and considering how many people languish in nursing homes for YEARS before they die... the conflict of whether to disconnect life support, etc... that was heart wrenching, and bringing Beth Maitland in with her acting chops jsut hit it out of the park, the death of John Abbott would not have played NEARLY so well without her. BUT... the subsequent Ghost/Alastair crap took a dramatic, watershed SL and watered it down and made a joke of it. When he died... he just should have DIED.

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I TOTALLY disagree with this. It is a disservice to the personal growth the character has showed over the decades, culimnating with that WONDERFUL apology she gave to Traci after Kay's funeral. She MATURED, and I would not have her backslide into come conniving shrew, or a bitch. We have JILL to be the bitch, and we have big red for the Conniving shrew... we don't need another one. To make the character more viable, I would have put her up against Gloria. She's accepted Gloria, but I would have loved to see Lauren finally get fed up with Glo and her machinations, putting her husband at risk with her unethical and sometimes illegal "demands" on him. I could see her not letting Fen bve around her, this causing tension in her marriage... etc.... you don't lay waste to all THIS:

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