Would people like The City and The Hills more if they weren't billed as reality shows? We know part (or most) of them are scripted, but does that make a difference? It seems like a lot of people complain that they're too scripted, but most things on TV are...

Either like it or don't like it in general, not based on what it's called. It doesn't make any sense to not watch one of them just because of that, especially since you'd probably change the channel to an actual scripted show.

Lol this isn't about anybody on this board, just a rant about how people treat these things.

yeah it kind of annoys me how worked up people get about the shows not being real. Who cares? You shouldnt go into this expecting some reality show like the Real World or Big Brother. Its a different kind and its pure entertainment

yeah it kind of annoys me how worked up people get about the shows not being real. Who cares? You shouldnt go into this expecting some reality show like the Real World or Big Brother. Its a different kind and its pure entertainment

Exactly.

People loved Laguna Beach and after seeing what really goes on with The Hills and City, you have to wonder what actually went on with that show. I assume most of the relationships were real, but there were probably lots of things set up like in these new shows. Yet nobody knew it back then and they loved the show.

About tonight,

Those guys really aren't worth it, lol. That Allie girl kind of seems b!tchy though, and not in Olivia's good way.

It's funny to see how some of these conversations go. Either they really aren't that close and don't see each other that much (other than Whitney and Jay) or they're just acting like they haven't seen each other in forever. Jay and Adam have these moments where they act like they haven't seen each other in weeks, yet they live together.....

And that guy that was with Olivia is in his late 20s, I think almost 30.

And from the preview it seems like we're actually getting more stuff coming up. I wonder if these first episodes were just a test because the rest seems a lot different.

Edited January 20, 200916 yr by bandbfan

So do we really not know if the Adam guy kissed that girl? His girlfriend is so easily swayed. She thinks it's true when she's around the girls and then believes him when he's around. Reminds me of Audrina.

Olivia is almost TOO mature. She wouldn't even listen to what Whitney was saying. There's a difference between not wanting to get involved and not listening to your "friend" vent to you.

And I'm glad Kelly Cutrone is in the next one. I love everything that comes out of her mouth.

Edited January 27, 200916 yr by bandbfan

Olivia is such a subtle bitch and I love it! Her line to Whitney in regards to staying out of Adam and Allie's drama.

Olivia: "Your what like 23 years old? You're not like in high school" (little laugh at Whitney)

Whitney: "I just needed someone to talk to about it, but if you dont want to hear it..."

Olivia: "Yeah, you know. Well thank you for inviting me!"

LMAO. She comes acorss more mature and sophisticated than any of the women that have ever been on this show or the Hills. Just before this, I thought why is Whitney bringing all this personal stuff which has nothing to do with Olivia up? It tended to bother me at times how Lauren and Audrina used to always gossip at work as much as they did

Edited January 27, 200916 yr by Cheap21

Kelly probably crossed a line, but she might not have been so honest or forthcoming if Allie hadn't so wanted her opinion. Allie's a bitch too though. She usually comes off high or drunk to me, just so, blaaaaaaaaah, all the time.

Kelly had a good point though, the fashion industry has put "normal" past what the consumer wants to expect as normal. Consumers will accept it to a degree, but a lot of models have crossed that line.

Kelly was a bitch but it was kind of funny. You are right in that Allie is one too and its hard to feel sorry for her. She's my least favorite of Whitney's new friends. Absiolutely loving Erin and Olivia. We really need to see more of Olivia's personal life bc as of now she's becoming the "Whitney" of The City , being the confidante at work of the main star

Did you see her on the View? She explained why she was barely seen on the Hills. It was actually her choice. She chose to keep her life private and her relationships, family and friends were off limit to MTV. They didnt have much material to work with so as a result, she wasnt featured as prominetly as the other girls except for work related footage. She's obviously had to lighten up on that with this show but her family and close friends back home are still off limits. She said its bc she loves them too much to have that exploited on tv. Her relationship with Jay isnt and thats only bc it started on screen. Actually makes sense and Im glad theres a reasoning other than she was too boring

Kelly was a bitch but it was kind of funny. You are right in that Allie is one too and its hard to feel sorry for her. She's my least favorite of Whitney's new friends. Absiolutely loving Erin and Olivia. We really need to see more of Olivia's personal life bc as of now she's becoming the "Whitney" of The City , being the confidante at work of the main star

Allie is just such a stereotypical model in that she has no personality. I wonder who she models for (as in brands)? If I saw her on the street I wouldn't automatically think that she's a model or should be. Not saying that she's not attractive. She seems so, almost gothic looking, with the heavy eye makeup and dark hair. I just wonder what she actually models and what she looks like then.

Looks like we get to see more of the bitchy side of Olivia next week. I don't know if I mentioned it on here, too lazy to look, but that cousin or whoever he is, (Nevin?) is something like 28 or 29. He doesn't look that old, but it's sad that he's such a moocher and is that old and is on this show.

Did you see her on the View? She explained why she was barely seen on the Hills. It was actually her choice. She chose to keep her life private and her relationships, family and friends were off limit to MTV. They didnt have much material to work with so as a result, she wasnt featured as prominetly as the other girls except for work related footage. She's obviously had to lighten up on that with this show but her family and close friends back home are still off limits. She said its bc she loves them too much to have that exploited on tv. Her relationship with Jay isnt and thats only bc it started on screen. Actually makes sense and Im glad theres a reasoning other than she was too boring

I actually read that awhile ago, I don't remember where, and that her decision to do the City was a suprise since she didn't want to be featured much on the Hills.

Edited February 4, 200916 yr by bandbfan

We really need to see more of Olivia's personal life bc as of now she's becoming the "Whitney" of The City , being the confidante at work of the main star

Does Olivia want a bigger role though? She might want to stay a supporting character and not want any of her personal relationships aired on tv.

She seems so, almost gothic looking, with the heavy eye makeup and dark hair.

I kinda like that look. But it depends on the person. ie. Evan Rachel Wood during her Marilyn Manson era - did not like that!

I don't know if I mentioned it on here, too lazy to look, but that cousin or whoever he is, (Nevin?) is something like 28 or 29.

Yeah, he's Olivia's cousin.

Does Olivia want a bigger role though? She might want to stay a supporting character and not want any of her personal relationships aired on tv.

hence why she's the "Whitney" of the show...lol. I can see why she'd want to keep her life private but man she is the most itnriguing on the show and Id love to see more of her

Once again I'm impressed they are able to have such a quick turnaround. Tonight's show took place about a month ago. So different from RW where they film the whole season and then show it all. They were still filming The City when it started showing.

And is anybody really surprised by Jay's behavior...other than Whitney?

Edited March 10, 200916 yr by bandbfan

Go Whitney! Im so glad she dumped Jay in the season finale. He so did no deserve her. Really she needs to be single and enjoy her new life in NYC and Im so glad she realized that forming such a close relationship so soon was not a good idea

Go Whitney! Im so glad she dumped Jay in the season finale. He so did no deserve her. Really she needs to be single and enjoy her new life in NYC and Im so glad she realized that forming such a close relationship so soon was not a good idea

The finale was amazing. I challenge any soap to be that 'raw' with a breakup scene. I loved how Whitney walked back into the party aftewards, also. "Fierce".

Also, I loved how Whitney finally stood up for herself to Olivia. Does anyone know if there is a second season confirmed? I think it will be AMAZING if it happens.

Also, I loved how Whitney finally stood up for herself to Olivia. Does anyone know if there is a second season confirmed? I think it will be AMAZING if it happens.

I know I read something that it was renewed (as well as Daddy's Girl's, and they weren't sure about Bromance yet).

I think its a given that the City will be back. Really what does MTV have besides its Laguna Beach spinoffs?

I sure hope so! The City and The Hills are great breaks on a busy weekday.