He is not going to last another hour. She got him mad early and he can't handle her mocking his crowds and convictions, or smiling or laughing. She is ripping him up and the moderator (David Muir and Davis) have been doing very well.

You know Dump is wishing it was still Joe Biden standing across from him. (And *I* know Joe was sick, and his mind is fine. But the optics helped Dump the last time.)

Donnie is losing his sheet, and I love it. And he never answered about vetoing a national abortion ban.

 

They really did come up with this [!@#$%^&*] about eating cats and ducks just to try to help him in the debate. I can't believe we've fallen so low in this country that his insane lies, the same stuff used to demonize immigrants for centuries, are treated as the gospel.

One of the most dangerous things about Trump as a candidate is he can say and do whatever he wants in a debate - lie, overtalk, bully, threaten - and if you argue back against him, you will seem defensive. Yet if you just try to take the high road, you look weak. He wins either way. Debating him is just enabling him.

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Why is Trump, a White man, darker than Kamala Harris, a Black woman? Make it make sense.

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

He wins either way. Debating him is just enabling him.

I'm sorry, but this debate is not a win for him at all. It is a catastrophe. He's been on defense and rattled the whole time. He's been fact-checked in real time (and the moderators debunked his cat thing live on TV, while he babbled 'I saw it on television'). She is mocking him and has put him down several times tonight. He is now defending Ashli Babbitt.

Nuzzi is somber:

 

He is now hollering about the border and defending J6.

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Even I, a worrier by nature, have to side with @Vee here. Trump is getting roasted, toasted, sliced, and diced. And TwitX is clearly impressed by the prosecutor annihilating the felon.

Hell, even some TRUMP supporters are asking what the hell Trump is saying...

Just now, Wendy said:

Even I, a worrier by nature, have to side with @Vee here. Trump is getting roasted, toasted, sliced, and diced. And TwitX is clearly impressed by the prosecutor annihilating the felon.

Hell, even some TRUMP supporters are asking what the hell Trump is saying...

It's like he's suicidal. He's been yelling for an hour. He just refused again, point blank, to admit he lost to David Muir.

 

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

I'm sorry, but this debate is not a win for him at all. It is a catastrophe.

I think this is another case of us vs the target audience (and the spinmeisters paid to help Trump). The same was said about him in the 2016 debates. What may seem off is a clarion call to the disturbed who flock to him.

This really is a thing of beauty. She has baited him and knocked him down at every turn. He's rarely been this angry. It's like she planned every line. She even said he was fired by the American people and called him a disgrace.

Now he is praising Orban!

Just now, DRW50 said:

I think this is another case of us vs the target audience (and the spinmeisters paid to help Trump).

This has nothing to do with preaching to the choir. Look at Beltway reaction and look at non-libertarian/right wing accounts. There is a reason right wingers are whining that Harris got the answers in advance and that Muir and Davis are in league with Harris. She has prosecuted him perfectly and presented herself very well to undecideds.

As for his base, who cares what they think? He doesn't have enough of a base left to win.

Case in point:

 

The topic "WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT" (in caps there!) is trending on TwitX. LOL!

She had so many lines in the chamber for tonight. Now it's "weak and wrong on national security." "So many leaders have told me you are a disgrace." She knew exactly how to hurt him and make him lose control. Just genius.

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

This has nothing to do with preaching to the choir. Look at Beltway reaction and look at non-libertarian/right wing accounts. There is a reason right wingers are whining that Harris got the answers in advance and that Muir and Davis are in league with Harris. She has prosecuted him perfectly and presented herself very well to undecideds.

If we get to November and Harris wins, I'll agree. Until then I generally just wish the debate hadn't happened.

2 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

If we get to November and Harris wins, I'll agree. Until then I generally just wish the debate hadn't happened.

You shouldn't! It is a joyous massacre and she has done very well. You should watch it.

Oh, Erick sounds stable! LOL.