Members Actor87 Posted October 20, 2008 Members Share Posted October 20, 2008 I've been waiting for this thread for SO long. First off, there's no "s" at the end of Byrne, Cheap. If MB were still in the role, she wouldn't be doing half the things Lily is doing right now. I could never see MB running Carly over (she might slap or ostracize, but never try to kill). I could never see her having revenge sex with Mike just a week after she discovered Holden's infidelity. Noelle is a good actress. Not the best, not awesome, not amazing. Just good. I hate her crying spells, too. Too much effort. Martha Byrne could cry without shedding one tear. She had a certain audience appeal where you actually felt something for Lily. You somehow could feel her happiness or her sadness or her anger. With Noelle, I feel nothing. Noelle has no chemistry with Jon or Grayson, and very little with Elizabeth. Martha Byrne oozed chemistry. Martha Byrne was a bit whiney at times, but it was all a part of portraying Lily at the time. The whiney Lily (surprisingly) died when Noelle came into the picture and Lily started running people down with her car and having akward sex with 20-year old's. MB's best years at Lily were in the 80's when Lily was either rebelling against her mother, falling more in love with Holden than ever, or being a damsel in distress. The most recent years with MB, she qickly became a needy housewife with very low self-esteem and a thirst for attention. But that's all part of the writing IMHO. In closing, I think Noelle is doing a good job and holding her own, but I don't think she's meant for ATWT. Maybe she's meant for another soap (A Bell soap, definitely) or perhaps primetime. But not ATWT. But on the other hand, I wouldn't dare want Martha Byrne to come back on the pretense that if she were to return, TAIC would either wither Lily down so much until she went down the drain or keep her in this out-of-character phase she seems to be in with Noelle in the role. God, I miss Martha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cashton Posted October 21, 2008 Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 Call me bitter but the way TPTB handled MB's exit still infuriates me. ATWT isn't the show I loved without Martha. NB is lovely, capable and quite fearless, but it doesn't make up for the fact that Martha got basically evicted out of her home for business politics. goutman is evil and I can't wait to see him out on his A$$! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Actor87 Posted October 21, 2008 Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 I'm with 312%, Cashton. That hack has destroyed or somehow tainted everything loveable, believable, and captivating about this once-#1 show....all with the help of his PissAnt of a sidekick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sungrey Posted October 21, 2008 Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 You have to wonder... if there is a change at the top and a new producer comes aboard, will that EP ask Martha to return to the role. Her exit was very badly handled and ATWT should be ashamed. Noelle isn't Martha, but if I strictly looked at Noelle without thinking of Martha's interpretation then I'd have to say Noelle is doing a good job. She's not great in the role, but she's done well with what she's handled. I'm just glad to see her back on daytime; I loved her on Loving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted October 21, 2008 Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 word. word. and word. I actually care about Lily now, I root for her now. I want to see more of her now. And its all due to Noelle, because it sure isnt the writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted October 21, 2008 Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 From the little that I've seen, she's just fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted October 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks for the responses everyone! It seems the verdict is divided on her. I loved her on Loving as well and really enjoying her. ATWT fans are lucky and its a shame I dont watch regularly bc Id love her over at ABC. I think she would make a great Lanie recast over on AMC. She has the look, she's the right age and the character has been gone for way too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Actor87 Posted October 22, 2008 Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 Then AMC should def. pick her up. Just teasin'. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted October 22, 2008 Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 ^Ur banner makes me miss Peyton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted October 22, 2008 Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 And the funny thing is... When I think Jack Peyton, I think Peyton List. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Actor87 Posted October 22, 2008 Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 You can see her on "Mad Men" on ABC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted October 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 then give her to us...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted October 22, 2008 Members Share Posted October 22, 2008 Oh, i do. but its not the same as 3-5 days a week every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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