I'm up to "The Confession." The intercutting between two parallel conversations gimmick has officially crossed the line from clever to annoying.

Joan was missing from the latest podcast with Tonya Crowe due to a back injury. I hope she's okay and back soon. I was hoping to hear more about the Olivia/Val relationship but unfortunately, we didn't get that. I also watched the Kim Lankford interview which might've been my favorite so far. Much like Michelle Phillips, she was very honest about how disappointed she was in how James Houghton discarded her.

She talked about how they were offered a spin-off and Houghton turned it down which led to their exit. She wishes she had a heads up about it so she could've gone to David Jacobs and tried to negotiate something for herself. Despite being upset about this, she was very positive about how things turned out overall. She seems to be living her best life now which is great. She also looks amazing!

On the one hand, it sounds as if James Houghton was given heads-up about the potential Kenny/Ginger spinoff before Kim Lankford, which I think was very unfair of the producers to do. (Sort of smacks of Joyce DeWitt and the rest of the "Three's Company" cast finding out about "Three's a Crowd" almost after the fact). But, on the other hand, I'm not sure how successful Lankford would've been on her own, either on a spinoff or on KL. As it was, the producers really struggled to give the Wards decent storylines after the first season or so.

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1 minute ago, Khan said:

As it was, the producers really struggled to give the Wards decent storylines after the first season or so.

The show really missed the boat by never having Abby have a fling with Kenny. Would’ve made more sense that Abby sleeping with Richard lol.

You know there is a 3rd possible theory here in regards to Houghton/Lankford... the producers lied to Lankford. It wouldn't be the first time that producers would turn stars against one another so they couldn't band together.

Odd she decides to wait until after he's dead to slander him when he isn't around to tell his side. Me thinks she's lying a little bit.

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1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

The show really missed the boat by never having Abby have a fling with Kenny. Would’ve made more sense that Abby sleeping with Richard lol.

Well, just about anything would've made more sense than Richard and Abby sleeping together, lol. But I'm not sure what, if anything, could've been gained from an Abby/Kenny fling either. Sure, Ginger would've been pissed, and either she would've moved out, or thrown him out. But then what? And would anyone really care?

On the other hand, if Abby had made a play for Ben..... ;)

2 hours ago, Khan said:

On the one hand, it sounds as if James Houghton was given heads-up about the potential Kenny/Ginger spinoff before Kim Lankford, which I think was very unfair of the producers to do. (Sort of smacks of Joyce DeWitt and the rest of the "Three's Company" cast finding out about "Three's a Crowd" almost after the fact). But, on the other hand, I'm not sure how successful Lankford would've been on her own, either on a spinoff or on KL. As it was, the producers really struggled to give the Wards decent storylines after the first season or so.

I can't see a spinoff ever working and I'm surprised they even almost had a spinoff. I would have kept Ginger on the show on her own for a season though, to see where they might have taken her.

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

I would have kept Ginger on the show on her own for a season though, to see where they might have taken her.

Actually, @DRW50 , I think having Kenny and Ginger depart was a smart move. KNOTS had already changed so much, IMO, and neither Ward fit into what the show was becoming. (Same goes for Richard/John Pleshette, although I still hold onto my fanfic of having him return in S14 to defend Mack on murder charges and hook up with Anne as if my very life depended upon it, lol).

44 minutes ago, Khan said:

Actually, @DRW50 , I think having Kenny and Ginger depart was a smart move. KNOTS had already changed so much, IMO, and neither Ward fit into what the show was becoming. (Same goes for Richard/John Pleshette, although I still hold onto my fanfic of having him return in S14 to defend Mack on murder charges and hook up with Anne as if my very life depended upon it, lol).

I can see your point, I just think even with the changes in the show there was still a window for Ginger to explore herself (I don't mean it that way, sorry), as we were seeing Laura and Valene rebuild their shattered lives around the same time. Maybe just a season, but I don't think it would have been as much of an issue as some of the other characters who ended up staying too long (Olivia, Cathy [that character probably never should have existed], Claudia, etc.).