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Sami was thrown under the bus years ago for Lucas who tried to MURDER her.

and better her a 'prop' for him than the heroine of the show. sami brady is a lot of things - a heroine and a slut are two of the only things she is NOT.

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Oh yes he did. Don't you remember the time Victor, Kate, Lucas, Sami and Brandon were all in Rome, trying to locate Roberto's confession tape? Kate and Lucas set Sami up to fall over that cliff with the Will doll. Tell me you remember the Will doll. :lol:

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Oh God, the Tom Langan era. I think I blocked out most of that era. :lol: Yeah, I remember the Will doll but I don't remember what they used it for. So Lucas actively tried to kill Sami? Or was it Kate's plan and Lucas went along with it, but thought it was a bad idea. Did he regret it? Refresh my memory. :)

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Lucas wanted to keep Will, and he knew that if Sami got the tape of Roberto saying that Lucas was Franco's killer, he would never get to see his son. Yes, it was Kate's idea, but Lucas went along the idea. As they went through with the plans, Lucas began second-guessing the entire plan, but Kate reminded him that he would lose Will so he continued through with it.

I remember Lucas drugging Sami's drink to make her groggy. Then, they used the doll to lure Sami up to the cliffs. In her groggy state, Sami thought the doll really was Will and he was going towards the cliff. Sami watned to save her son so she went after him and ended up falling over the damn cliff. Afterwards, it's a little hazy to me, but I think Brandon jumped into the water after Sami to save her. I really don't remember much of anything that happened after.

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Yup. Luca sn Kate plotted to MURDER her. Yes it was more Kates plan and Lucas went with it, but it doesnt chnage the fact of anything. So i dont see how her being pair with her so called rapist any worse than her being paired up with the man who tried to murder her.

Thank god someone else remembers this! I was starting to think it didnt happen!

People just forget about it, but it doesnt mean it didnt happen. I cant just say i blocked out ej and sami that night in dec so it didnt happena nd doesnt count. well i can as others do with other plot points, but it doesnt mean it really didnt happen.

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The real Sami shot off the balls of her 1st rapist. This fake Sami has sex with her second rapist after he referred to what he did as "making love" to her because he thought she wanted him to. All I remember is her crying her eyes out and begging EJ to save Lucas. I never knew that was code for "Make love to me."

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The transcripts are available and are clear on what EJ said to Sami -- as in he did *not* say he thought she *wanted him to*. As wrong as it was, he says he thought she *loved him* and would realize it: The same way Sami stated in part two of their conversation that she felt Austin would realize he *loved her* after she drugged him and forced herself on him. I'm not trying to be rude but there are plenty of legit arguments about the s/l without having to change the words to support a position.

EJ: I'm not proud of what I did that night. I'm deeply ashamed. Samantha, to say that what I did was a terrible mistake would be...an -- an understatement, but I never intended to hurt you. I made love to you that night because of the way that I felt about you, and... at the time, I really -- I-I thought that you felt the same way.

Sami: You are so egotistical. I told you that I loved Lucas. I told you I was in love with my husband.

EJ: I was deluding myself. Samantha, if I could take it all back, if I could go there and change it, I would. You're talking about the biggest mistake of my life.

Sami: Well, it's too little, too late. You think I came out of it unscathed? Do you think -- just because you couldn't see the bruises doesn't mean they weren't there.

EJ: I hurt you? How was that even possible?

Sami: Bruises -- EJ, I mean emotional scars.

EJ: I-I never meant to hurt you. I never meant to hurt you. I promise you. If I injured you in any way --

Sami: Stop it! Okay? It's not that. You -- we both were there, okay? We both know...that it wasn't like that, all right? It's not -- why were you such a sleaze afterwards? Wh-- why were you like that to me? That was the worst part.

(dialogue continues)

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