Sheffer absolutely amped up the Bitch in Kate Roberts (which Lauren Koslow appeared to relish)...I hope he manages to do it with Kay, Jill, Phyllis and Lauren, those characters NEED it.

And also surprising vulnerability. LK was AWESOME in the Lucas-changing-his-name stuff.

If HS can do that with Jill, Kay, Phyllis and Lauren, I'll be thrilled.

As for Sami, she was sexually assaulted and they played out her vulnerable side. How many sane women act in character after being raped? If you've noticed, Sami didn't start crying in every episode until she was raped and pregnant.

I would agree IF they told a rape storyline, but they didnt. Hogan used that ngith as a plot point to get heroine sami to get prego by ej. she changed long before that tho. she became the saint and heroine brady. she became carrie. sami was stripped of everything that made her sami.

and the moment hogan left she got it back.

An update:

Head Writer

Nancy Curlee

Breakdown Writers

Frederick Johnson

Trent Jones -> he's not on my team, replacing him is Sara A. Bibel*

Michael Minnis

Rex M. Best

Scriptwriters

Beth Milstein

+ some others when I figure them out

Story/Creative Consultant

Jerry Birn (he's 85, I think, I don't know if this could work)

* I like her more every day. She writes fluently, and I don't know why, but I was pleasantly surprised to see her talk about Sophocles' in her previous post; some writers wouldn't know Greek tragedy if it hit them with a brick.

Edited June 6, 200817 yr by Sylph

^Sara's also written scripts, so she's not just a breakdown writer. But I personally wouldn't trade Trent for Sara, though I like her. I know experience means nothing to you, but Trent has that and has worked with greats like Claire Labine, Pam Long, Nancy Curlee Demorest, and Bill Bell.

Oh, and I thought I told you that Nancy was now going by Nancy Demorest.

^Sara's also written scripts, so she's not just a breakdown writer. But I personally wouldn't trade Trent for Sara, though I like her. I know experience means nothing to you, but Trent has that and has worked with greats like Claire Labine, Pam Long, Nancy Curlee Demorest, and Bill Bell.

Oh, and I thought I told you that Nancy was now going by Nancy Demorest.

Didnt a lot of really crappy writers also work under them?

im not saying he is because i have no idea, just saying that just because you trained under great people doesnt mean anything.

Edited June 6, 200817 yr by JackPeyton

^Sara's also written scripts, so she's not just a breakdown writer. But I personally wouldn't trade Trent for Sara, though I like her. I know experience means nothing to you, but Trent has that and has worked with greats like Claire Labine, Pam Long, Nancy Curlee Demorest, and Bill Bell.

Trust my choice. :goes away leaving a Sphinx-like post:

Edited June 6, 200817 yr by Sylph

im not saying he is because i have no idea, just saying that just ebcause you trained under great people doesnt mean anything.

Trent is a great writer, and has Co-HW experience at Y&R. His years as Kay and Jack's Co-HW are considered by many to be Y&R's best years post-Bill Bell.

I see what you're saying though. Look at Megan McTavish, who has trained under Pam Long, Agnes Nixon, and Wisner Washam. How can anyone be that bad having worked under those people?

An update:

Head Writer

Nancy Curlee

Breakdown Writers

Frederick Johnson

Trent Jones -> he's not on my team, replacing him is Sara A. Bibel*

Michael Minnis

Rex M. Best

Scriptwriters

Beth Milstein

+ some others when I figure them out

Story/Creative Consultant

Jerry Birn (he's 85, I think, I don't know if this could work)

* I like her more every day. She writes fluently, and I don't know why, but I was pleasantly surprised to see her talk about Sophocles' in her previous post; some writers wouldn't know Greek tragedy if it hit them with a brick.

Love your list, but wasn't Rex M. Best a Y&R/B&B scriptwriter? Doesn't mean he couldn't be a brilliant breakdown writer, but I've always liked his dialogue. Why Michael Minnis???

Love your list, but wasn't Rex M. Best a Y&R/B&B scriptwriter?

Well, yes. B&B does not have BDWs. So I presume he knows how to structure an episode. Presume being the keyword. He also worked for Y&R some time ago.

Why Michael Minnis???

Why not Minnis?

If they'd ever be interesting in writing for daytime again, do you think Bridget and Jerome Dobson would be a good addition to Y&R? Or some other show?

I think the Dobsons would be more suited at AMC...but Lord knows, GL needs them, too.

ha. good luck.

on Days he made Kate an even more annoying hands on mother to her very adult kids. He made Sami freakin Brady into the shows selfless heroine.

Tho he did kinda make Belle a bitch and a slut... so you can maybe look forward to that with... Heather? Lily?

CKLily is already a slut. She jumps in bed with these guys before she get to really know them.

There's a certain high-brow quality to the Dobsons writing, which I think would work on Y&R. Their writing style can also be melodramatic and campy, some core elements of classic Y&R. They wouldn't be too bad a fit, I'd think.

However, If I had it my way, the former GL writer we'd get would be the sensational Nancy Curlee Demorest, if she ever chooses to grace daytime television again.

Edited June 13, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner