Barack Obama Elected President!

[Roman]

And, some of us may have gotten the idea she could win NC from her.......because that is what her camp kept saying. The "Game Changer" was NC.........and now that she's lost, not only was he supposed to win because all the black folks who voted for him, but she never was supposed to win it in the first place?

[tylerbo20]

thank you thank you All My Children for supporting me ...lol..what i said was not to be mean or anything i was just angry how CNN is portraying Obama as the 1st choice the new pres placing him high up in a pedistool while Clinton has been kicked to the curb. if anyone watchest SNL they will see what i mean...they see what i see... i wasnt implying that americans were stupid so thanks for putting words into my mouth.

[Wales2004]

Thanks for reminding me of that. I lack the ability to keep up with this stuff now because it keeps twisting and turning and mainly contradicting.

[Roman]

I think we just see that differently, tyler, but it doesn't make either one of us wrong.

In the last 5 weeks, if I would have had a nickel for every time someone on CNN had said Rev. Wright or talked about it.......I could have taken two weeks off from work.

This also includes MSNBC, who had a one hour special on the Rev. Wright crap just this past weekend.

Now......I can't remember either network having any specials on Hilary for some of the things she's said or some of her actions.

So......we'll just have to see this differently.

[Roman]

So, by some of the Hillary logic that I have heard, Obama must have had momentum after PA. then.......because he lost by 10 points there.

So.......the worse you lose a state, the more momentum you have.

[Roman]

I co-sign.

[tylerbo20]

hasnt she been a sen. longer than him?? just a question dont need to get mad.

[Roman]

She's got 5 years on him. So, she has alittle time on him.

But as far as making decisions in the WH.......they are dead even, IMO.

[tylerbo20]

but she has been in the white house and knows how to move when the lights arnt on at 3am

[Roman]

And also, at least he said it came our horribly wrong and said he was sorry.

She and her co-president husband used sleep deprevation as the excuse why she lied about that Bosnia trip.

[Roman]

And, if that's the case.......Laura Bush should run for higher office as well.

But I get your comment, tyler.

[Roman]

And I'll tell you this, also.....

If the situation were completely reversed, and Obama would have lost last night, and his campaign was in debt to the point that he had to loan it money........the same people saying Hillary should be giving the nom now would be saying Obama should think of the party and drop out.

[Jess]

By the logic of Hillary's supporters, there is no point in having the election in November. Polls show Hillary is up front today so she gets to be the Democratic nominee. Of course she was down a month ago, she should have dropped out then I guess. If there is no point in honoring electoral outcomes, I guess there is no point in having elections. Let's just go ahead and re-write the constitution for Hillary. Rules don't matter when you are a Clinton any way.

So she was co-president? Well she definitely lied about that when she was in the White House because she often said she was not. It was a criticism of Clinton that his wife, who was not elected, appointed or subject to senate confirmation, exercised so much power. In a representative democracy having an unelected person serving as president is a bit offensive. Also, and again I know that rules don't apply to Clintons, I guess Bill gets to be co-president too if she is elected. So what if he should not be. Of course, he says that he won't be co-president. She said she wasn't co-president either. Oh those Clintons.

The bottom line is Hillary, by continuing in this race is embarrassing herself. She also putting a lot of party officials in a position of having to tell her, as Bill Richardson and others already have, that they are not backing her. You are going to start seeing a lot of the "superdelegates" in her column switch because she has gone too far with this.

Tyler, CNN has been far far harder on Obama then on Clinton. The fact is that after the Florida debacle, there is no way a network is going to call an election when it is within the margin of error. You are not going to see a state called unless exit polls show a candidate winning by more than 6 points. You can count on that. CNN did not call the election, none on the major networks called Indiana, nobody did and nobody did for the same reason. They could not say with any certainty who would win. Obama blew Hillary's socks off in NC. It was easy and safe to declare a winner there.

[Roman]

From Frank Beckman:

"We had a lively debate over my assertion that there's a palpable anger amongst Barack Obama backers that could become explosive if they feel Clinton stole the nomination. This hasn't been talked about very much. What's interesting is that Tuesday's election results may make the debate moot. Certainly it's a much less likely scenario, as Thomas Edsell reported that the nuclear option at the Rules Committee was predicated Hillary Clinton having a strong showing Tuesday."

[DevotedToAMC]

The polls do not mean nothing but they are reliable ones that show she is winning by a large margin over McCain. That is what they say. The polls I consulted showed she would win Indiana and Obama would win North Carolina. Those were right since that is what the results showed.

Geraldine's comments caused Hillary to take a hit, just like his association with Wright and the bitter comments caused him to get into negatives. It seems like everyone has moved on from those so I won't bring them up for now.

I am only saying what is true and that is he is carrying the black vote. NC is heavily populated with African Americans so yes he would have a big shot of winning with those statistics. I am not following what you are saying with black/women and white man/Hillary other than black women will go for Obama primarily while other women will probably support her. I guess the white men are more ready to see a woman of their race be in The White House than any others but I am sure some see her as more formidable...I am not sure what explains their support of Hillary.

I already explained to you that the momentum is coming from the remaining primaries pretty much swinging her way. She is gaining in Oregon and will probably win the state once their official primary comes in two weeks. I am not saying to ignore any black votes because we will need them in the election in order to win so that means it would be a wise idea to put Obama on the ticket and see if both he and Hillary (I hope they are the ticket) can make amends with the community so that they give her a second chance. I have been saying for a while that Obama should get the vice presidency or Hillary should if he wins the nomination...I have been saying that a Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary ticket would be unbeatable and win.