This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

Roman and Mulder, I am extremely offended that both of you chose to refer to Senator McCain as "Old Ass Fossil McCain." Regardless of what you think of his politics, John McCain is one of the most honorable people to ever seek the presidency, and such deserves to be treated with the utmost respect. He has sacrificed--and accomplished--far more in his lifetime than Obama, Clinton, myself, or either of you will ever hope to.

It is OK to disagree with McCain on every single political issue. However, so long as your political opponents are ethical--as is certainly the case with McCain--one should never hurl personal insults. To choose to do so is the true sign of an immature fanatic.

someone on another board i go to posted this re Obama-

He sounds so smug and uppity, and everytime he gets called out he blames the media for taking it out of context. Then says it was a poor choice of words. Even on the compassion forum last night, he just seems like he's above everyone else.

and that exactly sums up how i feel about him.

I do hope that Clinton gets the nod. if she doesn i will vote for her, if not and im forced to chose between Obama and McCain, i have no idea who i will vote for - but i will vote. and as of right now prob for McCain.

Well their was a national poll on GMA this AM and it asked the question: Do you think Hillary is trustworthy: 39% said yes and 54% said no and that is exactly why she won't win this election. Shockingly the whole bitter remark has not even affected obama. I really hope hillary has the common sense to end her run after april 22nd, obama is leading her in North carolina, Indiana, and is barely trailing her in pennsylvannia. Hillary better put on the performance of her life in tonights debate and she better come up with a strategy to steal Indiana from obama, I really don't think she has a chance in NC.

Max you might as well give up right now.

Common sense and fairness are not acceptable behavior here in this thread by a few people.

John McCain is one of the most honorable people to ever seek the presidency, and such deserves to be treated with the utmost respect.

Not IMO. He is way too extreme on being pro life and sucked up to Bush who trashed him to no end in 2000. I don't find much honor in someone like McCain.

Just my opinion

I love that last line of yours about McCain. Old Ass Fossil McCain. The facts about that Old Ass Fossil really scare me, hopefully in the months to come this information will become more wideknown.

McCain is very scary on his pro life views

I'm sick of the Hillary haters and the Obama haters too and I'm sorry that for awhile I became close to an Obama hater. Democrats need to join together and throw the hate to John McCain.

Exactly. I am shocked that big numbers of supporters will go for McCain if the other does not get the nomination (a third of Hillary supporters to him if Obama is nominee, quarter of Obama supporters to him if Hillary is the nominee). He is not worth their vote

I don't understand why hillary drinking with the common folks is such a big deal? She deserves one damn drink, they are acting like she's an alcoholic now.

Yep it is pretty pathetic, huh? Big freaking deal. She had a drink. It would be something to be campaigning this hard and to NEVER have a drink! She deserves one for all this pressure

What's so "elitist" about saying Americans are bitter? News flash Hillary - Some Americans are bitter and they have every right to be given the economic strains on their pockets.

Roman and Mulder, I am extremely offended that both of you chose to refer to Senator McCain as "Old Ass Fossil McCain." Regardless of what you think of his politics, John McCain is one of the most honorable people to ever seek the presidency, and such deserves to be treated with the utmost respect. He has sacrificed--and accomplished--far more in his lifetime than Obama, Clinton, myself, or either of you will ever hope to.

It is OK to disagree with McCain on every single political issue. However, so long as your political opponents are ethical--as is certainly the case with McCain--one should never hurl personal insults. To choose to do so is the true sign of an immature fanatic.

Max you might as well give up right now.

Common sense and fairness are not acceptable behavior here in this thread by a few people.

And what offends me is a candidate who has flipped-flopped on every single issue since running for president, and a candidate who didn't ave one problem seeking out the endorsement of two reverends with very close minded views about other religions just so he can become president.

As far as you, Kwing...........if you choose to continue with the personal attacks on the members that you disagree with........actions can be taken.

Some of what Obama said has truth in it but he made it too much of a generalization that does not fit everyone. That is her problem with the comments and she is not the only one who feels they were wrong

Well said Max. Well said.

Bruce Springsteen endorses Obama for president

WASHINGTON - Rock star Bruce Springsteen endorsed Democratic Sen. Barack Obama for president Wednesday, saying "he speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years."

In a letter addressed to friends and fans posted his Web site, Springsteen said he believes Obama is the best candidate to undo "the terrible damage done over the past eight years."

"He has the depth, the reflectiveness, and the resilience to be our next president," the letter said. "He speaks to the America I've envisioned in my music for the past 35 years, a generous nation with a citizenry willing to tackle nuanced and complex problems, a country that's interested in its collective destiny and in the potential of its gathered spirit. A place where '...nobody crowds you, and nobody goes it alone.' "

The bard of New Jersey is known for his lyrics about the struggles of working-class Americans, particularly in the economically ravaged factory towns of the Northeast.

Springsteen and his E Street band were part of the Vote or Change tour, a coalition of musicians opposed to the re-election of President Bush in 2004. He wrote the anti-war ballad "Devils and Dust" about Iraq.

Springsteen did not directly mention Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Obama's rival for the Democratic nomination, in his letter, but appeared to take issue with her recent criticisms of comments made by Obama about working-class voters in small towns in Pennsylvania and controversial statements by his pastor.

"Critics have tried to diminish Senator Obama through the exaggeration of certain of his comments and relationships," Springsteen wrote. "While these matters are worthy of some discussion, they have been ripped out of the context and fabric of the man's life and vision ... often in order to distract us from discussing the real issues: war and peace, the fight for economic and racial justice, reaffirming our Constitution, and the protection and enhancement of our environment."

Some of what Obama said has truth in it but he made it too much of a generalization that does not fit everyone. That is her problem with the comments and she is not the only one who feels they were wrong

Even if he had worded it differently and didn't make the sweeping generalization you think he made, he was still right and she still would have pounced. No one thought it was an issue until she ridiculously started running the comment into the ground. She's looking for any opportunity to smear him and I'm glad the American people isn't taking the bait. As a matter of fact she's the one looking like a fool slugging beer all of a sudden. The only person "out of touch" is Hillary.

actually, many people has issues with the comments before Hillary spoke if I am not mistaken. If you ask me, it is time for everyone to just move on from the comments and work together to ensure we do not get a third Bush term with a McCain win in November. Trust me, we cannot afford it

Money I assume you are voting Democrat? Have you voted in your primary yet? If not, make sure your voice is heard!

Obama admitted that he worded it wrong, which I have respect for.

Every time she gets caught in a lie, it's everyone's fault but hers.

And if voters were so turned off.......how has he gained on her in PA., and overtook her in IND.?