This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

Hillary had to tell Bill to shutup agian , i was going to say zip it but thought peeps would think he was doing the other thing agian. lol

He was trying to defend Hillary on the whole sniper mess and ended up telling another big pile of falsehoods like that she was the only Frist lady to be in a War Zone when in fact she was number 3.

Hillary peeps got to him while he was still on stage and told him to shutup!

You know, Barack has done some messing up too. But it now seems that Hillary's campaign is imploding by the day. And, even though at times the media coverage has been oen-sided, Idon';t know HOW this woman expects to get the nom with her people acting like this, and her campaigning more on "Believe my lies" over the guy who wants to institute some type of change.

The Clintons were supposed to be so good at this stuff it's shocking they're messing up like they are.

If the Clintons were to get the nom they have no proven in any shape or form that they can do any better than they are now.

Their getting beat by a guy nobody heard tell of 4 years ago.

This is what I truly don't want to believe.

Do you think BC is sabotaging her campaign on purpose?

Hillary had to tell Bill to shutup agian , i was going to say zip it but thought peeps would think he was doing the other thing agian. lol

He was trying to defend Hillary on the whole sniper mess and ended up telling another big pile of falsehoods like that she was the only Frist lady to be in a War Zone when in fact she was number 3.

Hillary peeps got to him while he was still on stage and told him to shutup!

LMAO, was this caught on CNN? Bill needs to just go on vacation until after the race, but if he does that will create a scandal.

Do you think BC is sabotaging her campaign on purpose?

I'm really starting to think that he is, this man just isnt that stupid. More than anything, it has been BC's remarks that have hurt her the most.imo

I'll tell you one thing.

If she can't tell the difference between teenage girls handing her flowers and sniper fire at 11pm......

What the hell kind of judgement will she have when she answers that phone at 3am?

Ok.

Barack needs to stop doing this. Even though I get the gist of what he meant, if he can't put something in a context that wil get across to voters, he should be quiet. Now, instead oftalking about the war or McCain and how bad a canidate he is.......we are once again spending time on this bullshit.

As someone who admired this man 8 years ago, I now feel McCain is actually more dangerous than Bush.

I'm just hearing WAY too much stuff about himthat has turned me completely off to him.

I agree 100%!

Ok.

Barack needs to stop doing this. Even though I get the gist of what he meant, if he can't put something in a context that wil get across to voters, he should be quiet. Now, instead oftalking about the war or McCain and how bad a canidate he is.......we are once again spending time on this bullshit.

I agree 100% again and I think Bill Clinton should NOT have had as much time on the campaign trail that he has not only for the damage he's done (I do agree he's done damage) and I also think it may have some effect on his health, his heart, he's really not looking too good, I've noticed in recent campaign stops shown on tv, including one in my tri-state area.

I agree 100%!

I agree 100% again and I think Bill Clinton should NOT have had as much time on the campaign trail that he has not only for the damage he's done (I do agree he's done damage) and I also think it may have some effect on his health, his heart, he's really not looking too good, I've noticed in recent campaign stops shown on tv, including one in my tri-state area.

OK! It's not just me.

He DOES look really worn down and old. On top of that, he is getting away with murder ith the things he's said and the choices he's made, and the media has turned a blind eye to McCain.

This stuf with Obama is just silly. The one thing I give him credit for is that he did come out and say he really screwed up in how he put what he said. Took him one day too late, but at least he did it.

And if this the stuff Hillary feels she can beat him with.......it smacks of the same stuff John Kerry did. He thought he could run a half ass campaign and beat Bush just because the country was tired of the man.

You have to give the voters someone to vote for, IMO........not just tell them "Vote for me because that person stinks."

You have to give the voters someone to vote for, IMO........not just tell them "Vote for me because that person stinks."

Uh she is. She's saying vote for me because Obama is elitist and arrogant.

Which I don't think he is.

I understand what he said. He just said it poorly.

And if this is the best she can do.......

And, what do you make of this:

From CNN.

April 13, 2008

Clinton: 'Not relevant' last time I went to church, fired gun

Posted: 02:40 PM ET

SCRANTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) – After a weekend spent making direct appeals to gun owners and church goers, Hillary Clinton said Sunday a query about the last time she fired a gun or attended church services "is not a relevant question in this debate” over Barack Obama’s recent comments on small town Americans.

“We can answer that some other time,” Clinton said at a press conference held in a working class neighborhood here. “This is about what people feel is being said about them. I went to church on Easter. I mean, so?”

Clinton described the furor surrounding Obama’s remarks as “about how people look at the Democratic party and the Democratic party leadership.”

“We have been working very hard to make it clear that we have millions of Democrats who are church going and gun-owning,” she said. “And we are tired of having Republicans, or frankly our own Democrats, give any ammunition to Republicans because what happens then is Republicans take advantage of the situation.”

She called the current imbroglio “an important moment for Democrats” and challenged Obama to further explain what he meant by his comments, which she re-iterated were “elitist and divisive.”

Pressed on whether she truly believes Obama is an elitist, Clinton called him “a good man,” but recalled the narratives of the 2000 and 2004 president election.

“You don’t have to think back too far to remember that good men running for president were viewed as being elitist and out of touch with values and lives of millions of Americans,” she said.

Obama may be finished and if so he did it to himself.

Looks like McCain will win the White House.

From NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann

GOLDSBORO, NC -- As is evident from political journalists' email boxes today, the Clinton campaign appears to believe it's found a silver bullet -- served with a side of brie and chardonnay -- in Obama's recent controversial comments.

On the same day that Obama's opponents keep their eyes peeled for outrage from small-town America, Bill Clinton is doing a marathon six-stop campaign day in rural eastern North Carolina, a swing billed by one supporter as a "Barbeque Tour."

But the issue doesn't seem to be sticking. Clinton himself has been silent on the issue. But at the first two events of the day, the campaign has sent one of Carolina's hometown boys out to push the issue before Clinton takes the stage. Tom Hendrickson, a Clinton supporter and former Democratic Party chairman, included a reading of Obama's comments in his introduction of Clinton.

"Senator Obama, don't pity us and think that we're bitter and frustrated," he said in Winterville this morning. "We are hard-working family folks who are smart, and we get it. We don't need pundits to tell us what to think."

Hendrickson repeated the sentiment at a later stop in Winston, but dropped the direct mention of Obama as the source of the quote.

In both instances, Hendrickson's speech evidenced little reaction from the crowd, which had been waiting for the main event for over an hour, and appeared to have little tolerance for a parade of surrogates.

By the third stop of the day in Goldsboro, Hendrickson did not even take the stage.

In Goldsboro, close observers noticed a (light) smattering of stickers being worn by attendees. "I'm not bitter!" read the simple rectangular label on the lapels of a couple dozen in the crowd. The campaign says that the stickers are evidence of outrage at the grassroots level.

Yet it's unclear how spontaneous the sentiment was. A boxful of the stickers was spotted at Clinton's first event of the day -- being whisked backstage.

*** UPDATE *** The Clinton campaign in NC takes responsibility for the stickers, per a campaign aide, but says that the idea originally came from a volunteer.

Stickers have been distributed by volunteers -- given a "green light" by staff -- at four of Bill Clinton's events yesterday.